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   Peter du Toit (peterdutoit@mastodon.green)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 17:24:03 JST Peter du Toit

   "We expect the 12-month mean to rise to at least 1.6°C in the next six months because of Earth’s extreme energy imbalance."—James Hansen et al

   Source: http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2023/MeasuringStick.2023.12.14.pdf

   #ClimateCrisis #ElNino

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     Knud Jahnke (knud@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 18:59:55 JST Knud Jahnke

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     @EmmaBirkett @urlyman @pvonhellermannn @peterdutoit @AlaskaWx @kathhayhoe

     I have so many people around me that totally understand that there is troubling climate change. Then fly to the Canary Islands, Thailand, or the US for 1-2 weeks vacation. Every year.

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     Emma Bee (emmabirkett@social.coop)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 19:00:00 JST Emma Bee

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     @urlyman @pvonhellermannn @peterdutoit @AlaskaWx
     Yes I've read some of @kathhayhoe work on this. More practical examples of what worked for particular groups would be so useful to help think of how to spark the next convo. I have family members on all levels of the chart (from antipathy to understanding). The world is just continuing in general, keep on keeping on, so it's hard to bring up / too grave for small talk situations. Or is it?

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     Jonathan Schofield (urlyman@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 19:00:01 JST Jonathan Schofield

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     @pvonhellermannn @EmmaBirkett @peterdutoit @AlaskaWx @kathhayhoe

     Re my football comments in another branch of this thread: part of the problem I feel is that so much of the discourse is in the abstract when what is needed are practical changes that begin to dissolve the antipathy

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     Pauline von Hellermann (pvonhellermannn@mastodon.green)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 19:00:02 JST Pauline von Hellermann

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     @EmmaBirkett @peterdutoit @AlaskaWx

     Well I have tried for four years. Even in my own household, even in my own family, my closest friends, colleagues. no real impact. They are concerned, but not alarmed.

     But no doubt I have been going about it the wrong way. @kathhayhoe has lots of really good advice on how to have these conversations . As do others. Time to listen to it all again and give it yet another go, be more professional, strategic about it. But quite tired by now too.

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     Emma Bee (emmabirkett@social.coop)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 19:00:03 JST Emma Bee

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     @pvonhellermannn @peterdutoit @AlaskaWx then let's talk about what we would put in those conversations with those people who you describe who have no clue. Which bit do you reveal first, which are entry level impacts?

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     Pauline von Hellermann (pvonhellermannn@mastodon.green)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 19:00:05 JST Pauline von Hellermann

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     @peterdutoit And now I don’t know whether to feel happy or sad about this. I thought 2023 was already so bad, surely it would alarm people, but, as the Yale study shared by @AlaskaWx 2 days ago shows, it has had almost no impact on attitudes. But of course you are right - we ain’t seen nothing yet. This is all just the beginning. 2024 and thereafter will be so much worse 😓

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     Peter du Toit (peterdutoit@mastodon.green)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 19:00:07 JST Peter du Toit

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     @pvonhellermannn this will all change shortly

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     Pauline von Hellermann (pvonhellermannn@mastodon.green)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 19:00:08 JST Pauline von Hellermann

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     @peterdutoit it remains the case that the majority of people have no idea whatsoever just HOW bad things are. They are aware and concerned and say: “oh yeah, climate change. So good you are working on this. My next car will be electric. Etc”. But they are not alarmed, not panicking, planning everything else as normal. I feel I am right back with Greta when she said: “I want you to panic!” But it’s not happening. #ClimateDiary

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     Jonathan Schofield (urlyman@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 03:57:12 JST Jonathan Schofield

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     @peterdutoit @pvonhellermannn
     I can see the near time reaction coming: “You lot said the world would end at 1.5 and here we are at 1.6 and we’re all fine.”

     We’re in a special kind of cognitive hell