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   Mastodon Migration (mastodonmigration@mastodon.online)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 05:21:07 JST Mastodon Migration

   IMPORTANT. Threads stated policy is to collect and exploit Fediverse user personal data without explicit consent.

   Now is a very good time to review Threads Terms of Use (https://terms.threads.com/terms-of-use) and Supplemental Privacy Policy (https://help.instagram.com/515230437301944).

   Note just by following a Threads user or replying to a post, Meta claims they are entitled to your personal data.

   And what do they say they will do with your data? Provide you with "business services (including ads)."

   #threads #DataPrivacy

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     Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 07:09:46 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • かき@GNUsocialJP

     @mastodonmigration Your username, profile picture, and domain and IP of your server are public and every Mastodon server out there does absolutely the same thing.

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     John Francis (johnefrancis@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 07:14:48 JST John Francis

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     • Eugen Rochko

     @Gargron @mastodonmigration I still have a lot of concerns that by making something public, that anyone finding it considers themselves entitled to use it for any purpose. I suspect there are several content licenses that provide solutions. It's probably not a Mastodon concern, but maybe it's something that belongs in ActivityPub.

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     Mastodon Migration (mastodonmigration@mastodon.online)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 07:44:15 JST Mastodon Migration

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     • Eugen Rochko

     @Gargron Yes, but this does not address the issue. The concern expressed here is the use of this identity data, as well as Mastodon user content and interactions, for the purpose of Threads broader business services, including ads.

     As described in the document Supplemental Privacy Policy: https://help.instagram.com/515230437301944

     #threads #DataPrivacy

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     Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 07:44:15 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • かき@GNUsocialJP

     @mastodonmigration So theoretically a Threads user might see an ad about honey because they follow a user from beekeepers.ninja.

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     Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 07:55:55 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • かき@GNUsocialJP
     • rexum

     @rexum @mastodonmigration How? For what reason?

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     rexum (rexum@gnu.gl)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 07:55:57 JST rexum

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     • Eugen Rochko

     @Gargron @mastodonmigration but then beekeepers.ninja would probably be blocked by instance moderators.

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     Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 07:58:37 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • かき@GNUsocialJP

     @mastodonmigration No, that is not a concern, because there is no capability for the fediverse user to get ads on other platforms connected to them in any way. It is also an extremely bog standard, matter of fact privacy policy. Ours does not look much different.

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     Mastodon Migration (mastodonmigration@mastodon.online)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 07:58:38 JST Mastodon Migration

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     • Eugen Rochko

     @Gargron The bigger concern would be that a Fediverse user might start getting ads on other platforms about honey, just because they follow someone on Threads and also follow beekeepers.ninja or simply post on Mastodon about bees.

     But this is not just about ads. It is about data privacy and what Meta claims authority to do with data and content pulled from the Fediverse.

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     Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 07:59:38 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • かき@GNUsocialJP
     • rexum

     @rexum @mastodonmigration I think you misunderstood something at some point. The only people who might see ads are people who use the Threads app. There is no way for Threads to show an ad outside of Threads.

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     rexum (rexum@gnu.gl)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 07:59:39 JST rexum

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     • Eugen Rochko

     @Gargron @mastodonmigration because they inject ads or did I get something wrong?

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     Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 08:04:24 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • かき@GNUsocialJP
     • rexum

     @rexum @mastodonmigration That would be pointless. You would simply unfollow the user.

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     rexum (rexum@gnu.gl)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 08:04:25 JST rexum

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     • Eugen Rochko

     @Gargron @mastodonmigration yes, but they could inject ads as user posts but I don't think they would do that.

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     Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 08:17:48 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • かき@GNUsocialJP
     • rexum

     @mastodonmigration @rexum Personal data usually carries a slightly different meaning than a public profile and posts you choose to broadcast to the open web, and the way this entire thread is written is highly misleading in a disappointing way.

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     Mastodon Migration (mastodonmigration@mastodon.online)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 08:17:49 JST Mastodon Migration

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     • Eugen Rochko
     • rexum

     @Gargron @rexum

     Think that the focus on ads misses the point. The primary issue is not the display of ads, but rather the collection and analysis of Fediverse user personal data and content, and the use of it for profiling the user. The concern is that such data is taken from the Fediverse and is used to fill out Meta's profile of the user and then exploited for whatever purpose, including but not at all limited to ads.

     Tim Chambers repeated this.
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     Kurt (flglchicago@mas.to)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:55:53 JST Kurt

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     • Eugen Rochko
     • rexum

     @mastodonmigration @Gargron @rexum Bingo.

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     rexum (rexum@gnu.gl)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 18:58:58 JST rexum

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     • Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)

     @tokyo_0 @FLGLchicago @mastodonmigration @Gargron but they would be blocked very quick I would guess. (like the whole instance if its threads or another)

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     rexum (rexum@gnu.gl)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 19:02:21 JST rexum

     • Eugen Rochko
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     • Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)

     @tokyo_0 @FLGLchicago @mastodonmigration @Gargron then convince your family to move

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     івась тарасик (tivasyk@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 22:24:05 JST івась тарасик

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     • Eugen Rochko

     @Gargron the difference is: fediverse instances belong (mostly) to communities, whereas f ones belong to a corporation. are you ignoring that fact on purpose?

     @mastodonmigration

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     Mastodon Migration (mastodonmigration@mastodon.online)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 16:53:34 JST Mastodon Migration

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     Back in June 2023, and reboosted today, this account posted this notice:

     Meta Specific Data Rights Limitation Notice >>> https://mastodon.online/@mastodonmigration/110663189973042587

     Note that the purpose here is simply to state you do not consent to any use of your data beyond what you have authorized in your instances privacy policy.

     If you would like to "sign" the notice feel free to simply reply, boost, or favourite.

     #threads #meta #DataPrivacy

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     Mastodon Migration (mastodonmigration@mastodon.online)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 16:53:35 JST Mastodon Migration

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     To be clear, this post should not be interpreted as a position or general statement on Threads interfacing with the Fediverse. There are many good things that could come from wide adoption of distributed social media. This post is focused narrowly and specifically on Fediverse user's data rights and any threats to those rights from anyone who would claim that simply by connecting to ActivityPub and interacting with the Fediverse that they have broad rights to Fediverse user data.

     #DataPrivacy

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     Mastodon Migration (mastodonmigration@mastodon.online)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 16:53:36 JST Mastodon Migration

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     People have asked that a screenshot of Threads "How do we use this information section" be included to show that it is not simply to provide the services, and includes ad targeting.

     Edit: Note it has been discovered that Threads apparently has a different version of this document if you fetch it from the EU, which differentiates between third party users with and without a profile that addresses this concern. See reply below for details: https://mastodon.online/@mastodonmigration/111587323824968255

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     Dale Reardon (dalereardon@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 17:09:24 JST Dale Reardon

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     • Eugen Rochko

     @Gargron @mastodonmigration I can already think of one way if they are devious enough - If I follow someone on threads, then threads can just insert sponsored posts into their timeline that auto syndicates over to my account on Mastodon - So Threads can generate advertising posts on behalf of people and make them look like normal posts which will come across - Twitter essentially did this at one point & may still be doing it to fool people into reading ads