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   Max Kennerly (maxkennerly@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 04:38:59 JST Max Kennerly

   You can say Substack should host Nazis, but don't pretend there's some "free speech" principle to it. Substack has a strict ban on pornography. Welcoming Nazis while banning sex workers isn't a principled stand, it's a choice, an expression that you like the former and dislike the latter.

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 05:16:08 JST feld

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     • Eleanor Saitta
     @dymaxion @maxkennerly what Treasury are you referring to?
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     Eleanor Saitta (dymaxion@infosec.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 05:16:09 JST Eleanor Saitta

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     Part of the principle, unfortunately, is "Mastercard and Visa tell us they will permaban us if we take porn and don't care about nazis", and they say that because the Treasury tells them so. It's definitely also a thing they're not pushing back against, but a lot of the problem with adult content online comes down to that.

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     Eleanor Saitta (dymaxion@infosec.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 05:24:06 JST Eleanor Saitta

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     • feld

     @feld US, sorry. USG basically sets content policy for the entire industry here, unfortunately. @maxkennerly

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 05:24:06 JST feld

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     • Eleanor Saitta
     @dymaxion @maxkennerly the US porn sites I've contracted for in the last few years have no problem taking Visa and Mastercard ...
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 07:27:30 JST feld

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     • Eleanor Saitta
     @dymaxion @maxkennerly we did use Stripe as one of the processors in our mix besides the other industry specific ones -- completely ignoring their ToS with no issues. I don't know if they still allow the specific sites I'm referring to. Their support staff didn't seem to care either. I think it was very selectively enforced because we made them a lot of money too 😂
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     Eleanor Saitta (dymaxion@infosec.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 07:27:31 JST Eleanor Saitta

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     @feld
     Yes. Visa and Mastercard sort of tolerate those folks, but enforce the rules across everyone else, and those processors are much more expensive — and still kind of in the targets of stuff like Fosta/sesta. Substack is on Stripe who don't allow this.
     @maxkennerly

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 07:30:03 JST feld

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     • Eleanor Saitta
     @dymaxion @maxkennerly late 2018/2019, so it was post
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     Eleanor Saitta (dymaxion@infosec.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 07:30:04 JST Eleanor Saitta

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     @feld
     Was this pre-fosta/sesta?
     @maxkennerly