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    DavidB (davidbhimself@firefish.city)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 22:48:56 JST DavidB DavidB

    "But you don't understand! If #Threads federate with the #Fediverse, evil #Meta will siphon all of our data."

    I assume that by "data" you mean all of our collective public posts that have been crawled by hundreds if not thousands of robots already, including Meta's, right?

    "But you don't understand! Meta is evil, it wants to take control of the world and all that. Also, embrace extend extinguish... Don't you know about embrace extend extinguish? I learned the expression last Spring, now I need to use it to pretend I know what I'm talking about. Look, I'm doing it again: embrace extend extinguish!!!"

    Yes, yes. I fully understand. Meta's path to world dominance goes through crushing the Fediverse. Meta and its three billion users (and you're probably already one of them, and I'm not even talking about the ghost accounts here) have one hurdle left for world dominance. It's a group of geeks and nerds, all two or three million of us. Is it a case of not understanding what a billion is again?

    🤷

    In conversation Friday, 15-Dec-2023 22:48:56 JST from firefish.city permalink
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      Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 22:51:23 JST Tim Chambers Tim Chambers
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      • RS Media

      @rsmedia @DavidBHimself I argue here that there is only one defence against "embrace, extend, extinguish" that has ever worked, and preemptive defederation is not it. And only self-defeating. https://www.timothychambers.net/2023/06/23/project-and-the.html

      In conversation Friday, 15-Dec-2023 22:51:23 JST permalink

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        Threads and the Fediverse - A Smarter Battle Plan to Protect the Open Social Web
        With the #meta #Project92 or #Threads Fediverse offering, there has been a, well, robust discussion of how to avoid threats looming. Those advocating mass-preemptive defederation make three cases for it. ➡️ To avoid data mining … However, defederation does virtually zero to avoid any big tech entity scraping all the Fediverse public social graph today - Want proof? See here: is.gd/q8U2pv But what if they merge that Fediverse data with their own internal data from IG isn’t that worse than just scraped data?
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      RS Media (rsmedia@universeodon.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 22:51:32 JST RS Media RS Media
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      @DavidBHimself well...you might be right, however...I have already seen the example of "embrace...extinguish" in the business world a couple of times, so I wouldn't be surprised here. Destroy the oposition, you know ... Because Meta or X or Google don't care about the people already desperately hooked up...they are concerned about those who are not. Remember the original Matrix movie? And in the course of history it was not the masses who steered the course...it was the small group of determined individuals.
      All aspiring leaders should be - and I bet they are - well learned about that.
      And yes, I do have a FB/IG account, for when I want to see their content.
      #mytwocents #threads #meta #Fediverse

      In conversation Friday, 15-Dec-2023 22:51:32 JST permalink
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      Michael Fisher (mjf_pro@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 23:21:57 JST Michael Fisher Michael Fisher
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      • Tim Chambers

      @DavidBHimself @tchambers They’ve been forced into adopting open standards as a condition of staying in business in Europe. So long as that includes their building a migration off-ramp to the wider Fediverse (which if they don’t build themselves watch for an OSS project that uses Threads + Masto APIs to do it for them!) I think we’ll all come out alright.

      In conversation Friday, 15-Dec-2023 23:21:57 JST permalink

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