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    Teri Kanefield (teri_kanefield@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 01:25:07 JST Teri Kanefield Teri Kanefield

    Warning: Rant coming.

    The doomsaying and cynicism in my comments over the past few days are annoying me.

    I am addressing the people saying any form of: "Why won't the Supreme Court rule in Trump's favor?"

    You are unhinged from the facts. Get a grip.

    Here are the facts: Since Trump lost in 2020, the Supreme Court, and every other court, has consistently ruled against him in his immunity claims.

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    In conversation Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 01:25:07 JST from mastodon.social permalink
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      Futurist Jim Carroll (jimcarroll@futurist.info)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 01:25:06 JST Futurist Jim Carroll Futurist Jim Carroll
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      @Teri_Kanefield I suppose they will just back into absolving him though. So they can cover themselves.

      Totally cynical at this point.

      In conversation Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 01:25:06 JST permalink

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      Teri Kanefield (teri_kanefield@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 01:40:48 JST Teri Kanefield Teri Kanefield
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      Trump's theory of absolute criminal immunity means this:

      If Trump, on his last day in office, shot someone on 5th Avenue in front of thousands of witnesses, there could be no criminal investigation until (1) The House impeached him and (2) The Senate convicted him.

      If 2/3 of the Senate refused to convict him, he would walk free.

      It's possible he couldn't even be impeached because impeachment, under some theories, addresses only crimes of office, and abuse of power.

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      In conversation Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 01:40:48 JST permalink
      Tim Chambers and HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 repeated this.
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      Teri Kanefield (teri_kanefield@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 01:40:49 JST Teri Kanefield Teri Kanefield
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      If the Supreme Court wanted to install Trump as dictator, they would have helped him out in the election fraud cases when he claimed he won.

      All they had to do was delay matters until after January 6, which would have thrown the country into complete turmoil.

      Turmoil helps would-be dictators.

      If they wanted to shield him from criminal liability, they would have said he had the right to take the secret documents.

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      In conversation Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 01:40:49 JST permalink
      Tim Chambers repeated this.
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      Teri Kanefield (teri_kanefield@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 01:40:58 JST Teri Kanefield Teri Kanefield
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      Absolute criminal immunity isn't a thing. It has never been a thing. Trump made it up.

      If the Supreme Court rules for him, they give up all their own power because all the President needs is enough members of Congress to refuse to impeach or remove him, and he can literally do anything.

      Any crime. Anything.

      If the Supreme Court does that, it's literally all over.

      Incidentally, they also lose their own power. If they create a dictator they are dispensable.

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      In conversation Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 01:40:58 JST permalink
      Tim Chambers and HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 repeated this.
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      Teri Kanefield (teri_kanefield@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 01:41:03 JST Teri Kanefield Teri Kanefield
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      The only issue going into this was whether they would give him the delays he wants.

      We got the answr to that when SCOTUS responded to the DOJ's request for an expedited hearing within a few hours.

      A few HOURS. Appeals can take years.

      While I don't have the stats handy, I think it's safe to say that the Supreme Court rarely responds that fast.

      Delay helps Trump and they know it.

      Rant over.

      5/

      In conversation Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 01:41:03 JST permalink
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      Martin Vermeer FCD (martinvermeer@fediscience.org)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 08:27:32 JST Martin Vermeer FCD Martin Vermeer FCD
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      • Mike

      @MikeBon Yep. I have been playing with the idea that Biden should just go and bomb Iran's drone factories and surrounding infrastructure, if he's not allowed to arm Ukraine directly. And of course shoot Trump on 5th Avenue 🤣

      In conversation Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 08:27:32 JST permalink
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      Mike (mikebon@mstdn.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 08:27:33 JST Mike Mike
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      @Teri_Kanefield@mastodon.socialand then who is to stop president Biden from being the first president to take full advantage of those new found powers?

      In conversation Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 08:27:33 JST permalink
      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 repeated this.

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