Aral Balkan
Article 3 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights:
“Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.”
Israel:
“Except Palestinians.”
The US and other Western democracies:
“Except Palestinians.”
#israel #palestine #gaza #genocide #ethnicCleansing #UDHR #UDHR75
Aral Balkan
@tio True.
tio
Aral Balkan
@ttiurani @tio You’re both arguing the same point :) (@tio was criticising the way things are today; his work is entirely based on creating alternatives to the status quo he described)
Timo Tiuraniemi
I don't believe this is true.
We are heterotrophs and need to consume other life to survive. However, that doesn't mean we must consume more than what nature can regenerate. There are hundreds of millions of people living in harmony with nature, doing good things, right now.
In fact, we can also feed 10 billion people sustainably:
https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/how-feed-10-billion-people
The problem ofc is that our societies, especially in the Global North, actively prevent this.
Let's change them.
Aral Balkan
@ttiurani @tio He means in our so-called modern societies. As in you can’t in London or New York or whatever city or town you or I live in and that we should try and change that.
Timo Tiuraniemi
I probably misunderstood, but replied to this:
"no one can live on this planet without trading.... you can't be a good human being, do good thing, and survive."
which I understand to argue that no one on the planet can be a good human being and survive at the same time?
There are both (indigenous) people living directly off the land, and people within societies consuming very little, but still enough to not only survive but also have a good life.
So "no one" is not true.
tio
Aral Balkan
@gunchleoc … the Kurds, you forgot the Kurds.
GunChleoc
@aral And except Armenians, Afghans, any PoC in a small boat on the Mediterranean or arriving in the UK, and anybody else I forgot to mention...
Aral Balkan
@2_beers Oh, is that what all Palestinians think? Gee, I wonder if there’s a word for tarnishing an entire people with the same brush?… When it is done to Jews, we call it antisemitism.
2_beers
@aral@ar.al Palestinians: “except Palestinians… and Jews, and homosexuals, and women, and anyone who criticizes Hamas”
Aral Balkan
Martin Schröder
Aral Balkan
G3rn0ti
@aral And what about the right to life, liberty and security of the people Hamas took hostage, raped or killed? Perhaps you should direct your concerns towards Hamas and their Palestianian supporters, too.
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