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   Serge from Babka (serge@babka.social)'s status on Saturday, 02-Dec-2023 08:46:12 JST Serge from Babka

   All the people calling for a #ceasefire and demonizing Israel, explain to me how you justify the fact that it's Hamas who has violated multiple ceasefires, including the most recent one, just yesterday/today?

   Who exactly do you demand a ceasefire from, and what consequences if it's violated?

   #Israel #Gaza #Hamas

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     Daniel Schwarz (ds212@babka.social)'s status on Saturday, 02-Dec-2023 08:47:53 JST Daniel Schwarz

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     @serge I've never seen any of the demos calling for Hamas' rockets to stop. Perhaps that's assumed in the definition of a ceasefire. But I have seen a lot of "all resistance is justified" sentiments. As they consider Israel to be an illegitimate settler-colonial enterprise, Israel has no right to self defense.
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     Daniel Schwarz (ds212@babka.social)'s status on Saturday, 02-Dec-2023 08:47:54 JST Daniel Schwarz

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     @serge they demand it from Israel, because Israel is the only actor in the conflict with free will and the requirement to abide by international laws. /s
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     Serge from Babka (serge@babka.social)'s status on Saturday, 02-Dec-2023 08:47:54 JST Serge from Babka

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     • Daniel Schwarz

     @ds212

     Then they're not asking for the ~350 rockets per day that Hamas shoots into Israel to stop, nor the terrorist attack in Jerusalem to stop, or for them to abide by any other condition of a ceasefire?

     In other words, this isn't a ceasefire demand at all, just "Israel, stop defending itself?", right?