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   kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Dec-2023 06:51:00 JST kaia
   can someone TL/DR why one needs to pay money to domain registrars? they are not the ones maintaining the DNS infrastructure, are they?
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     p (p@raru.re)'s status on Friday, 01-Dec-2023 06:54:11 JST p

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     > the ones maintaining the DNS infrastructure, are they?

     in part yeah, your registrar will typically host "nameservers" which swap IPs for DNS entries

     if you're on linux you can try out the dig tool and see

     other than that they might pay some fees on your behalf to ICANN
     @kaia

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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Friday, 01-Dec-2023 06:56:23 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @kaia they are, at least partially. Its just inertia, really, you can have kaia.de for free as long as you don't care about other people accessing it too.
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     p (p@raru.re)'s status on Friday, 01-Dec-2023 06:58:34 JST p

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     • on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

     there can be only one localhost!
     @lain @kaia

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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Dec-2023 06:59:22 JST kaia

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     @lain
     they should give me kaia.de seeing they don't do anything with it :angry_cirno:
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     noe のえ (noe@sapphic.engineer)'s status on Friday, 01-Dec-2023 07:00:46 JST noe のえ

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     @kaia pretty sure it's two parts, neither is required by IANA or anything...
     
     - prevent conflicts of interest between customer and registry. you might not want to do direct business with Verisign if you are a competitor/enemy to Verisign. You'd pay Gandi who will pay Verisign on your behalf minus margin.
     
     - separation and simplification of concerns, where the registrar is possibly an abstraction of many registries. You can do business with one total registrar but get many TLDs owned by any number of parties.
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     NavBlank (nav@maid.army)'s status on Friday, 01-Dec-2023 07:00:51 JST NavBlank

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     @kaia@brotka.st they often provide their own name servers. But that's an added service that's basically just expected for free now I think. All domain registrars do (as solely a registrar) is submit your info to the registry and collect money I think. Usually, the fees are pretty modest, but some companies like Endurance International Group like to charge very high fees (I've never heard something good about them).

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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Friday, 01-Dec-2023 07:03:12 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     • p
     @p @kaia local Horst, as we call him in the Reich
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Friday, 01-Dec-2023 07:05:13 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @kaia *leaning back on lain.com* yeah, they really should
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Friday, 01-Dec-2023 07:08:02 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     • on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
     @lain @kaia yall don't know the struggles us 2-character folk experience
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Friday, 01-Dec-2023 07:08:50 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @kaia i think it's the same season why you need to pay money do have a stand at the local Christmas market: people actually come there and you can serve them. You can sell your dream catchers and Peruvian flutes somewhere else too, but it just isn't worth it.
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     ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 01-Dec-2023 07:34:37 JST ロミンちゃん

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     @kaia I do wonder about the same thing but with taxes instead
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     Aroop Roelofs :verified: (finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Friday, 01-Dec-2023 07:41:58 JST Aroop Roelofs :verified:

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     @kaia They don't maintain the DNS infrastructure as a whole (my domain has my own nameservers + slaves provided by my instance's UNIX-beard and Afraid.org).

     But they do need to keep a decent bunch of infra going, which just costs money.

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