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   Joe Ortiz (joeo10@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Nov-2023 02:58:28 JST Joe Ortiz

   in reply to

   • David Buchanan
   • Signal
   • Kevin Karhan :verified:
   • Element
   • anedroid

   @anedroid @kkarhan @retr0id @signalapp @element
   Here's a great example from dessalines' great "Why Not Signal?" essay on what makes a good messaging platform. https://dessalines.github.io/essays/why_not_signal.html#what-makes-a-good-messaging-platform

   Notables include:

   End-to-end encrypted
   Open source
   Federated
   Self hosted
   No required linkable identifiers (and no Signal's recent announcement on them hiding phone numbers doesn't even count.)

   Good messaging alternatives include:
   Matrix. XMPP, Briar, SimpleX

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     anedroid (anedroid@wspanialy.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Nov-2023 02:58:34 JST anedroid

     in reply to

     • David Buchanan
     • Signal
     • Kevin Karhan :verified:
     • Element

     @kkarhan @retr0id @signalapp Agree. That's why I use @element for my daily conversations. It's just that my reason to avoid Signal is not bad encryption.

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     Kevin Karhan :verified: (kkarhan@mstdn.social)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Nov-2023 02:58:35 JST Kevin Karhan :verified:

     in reply to

     • David Buchanan
     • Signal
     • anedroid

     @anedroid @retr0id @signalapp

     Why would anyone want a #centralized #SingleProvider solution to begin with?

     To me #Signal stinks like #EncroChat and #ANØM, because all #centralization is bad as it leads to #Enshittification.

     IOW: Why does it need a fecking #PhoneNumber???

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     anedroid (anedroid@wspanialy.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Nov-2023 02:58:36 JST anedroid

     in reply to

     • David Buchanan
     • Signal
     • Kevin Karhan :verified:

     @kkarhan @retr0id @signalapp Well, if you use Molly, you're basically using Signal fork built from source w/o proprietary blobs that's usable with the official Signal server. Then all you need to do, is to match the security number with your peer.

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     Kevin Karhan :verified: (kkarhan@mstdn.social)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Nov-2023 02:58:37 JST Kevin Karhan :verified:

     • David Buchanan
     • Signal

     @retr0id And that's why I don't trust @signalapp / #Signal, #Telegram, #WhatsApp, #iMessage, etc.
     
     
     Only #SelfHosting & #SelfCustody of #Keys allow for real #E2EE and thus #security...