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   emilygorcenski (emilygorcenski@indieweb.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 05:02:13 JST emilygorcenski

   Do you want to read almost 9,000 words on AI, manifest destiny, millenarian cults, evangelical christianity, the singularity, and how we have stopped trying to play God and now are trying to build God? Well here's your chance.

   https://emilygorcenski.com/post/making-god/

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     Jan :rust: :ferris: (janriemer@floss.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 05:24:21 JST Jan :rust: :ferris:

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     @emilygorcenski Wow, this is incredible, Emily!✨ 9,000 words!? I can't even see my scrollbar anymore.😄

     I haven't read the whole thing yet, but from what I've read it looks like a beautiful arc from past to present to future on the topics you've mentioned. ➰

     Thank you for this. I love it, when people are so dedicated/passionate about something! ❤️

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     Peter Nimmo (peternimmo@mastodon.scot)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 05:43:45 JST Peter Nimmo

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     @emilygorcenski I'm looking forward to finishing that

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     Børge (forteller@tutoteket.no)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 06:28:17 JST Børge

     @emilygorcenski Redefine "soul" as the thing that makes living things alive. Say that living things have souls.

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     Jared White (jaredwhite@indieweb.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 06:31:03 JST Jared White

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     @emilygorcenski Oh wow. 😲 Bookmarked for later reading!

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     Jack Coates 🐀 (puercomal@sfba.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 22:37:56 JST Jack Coates 🐀

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     @emilygorcenski not often that I see Earl Cox mentioned, you dug deep!

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     Ivan Andriollo :mastodon: (andriollo@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 23:38:55 JST Ivan Andriollo :mastodon:

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     @emilygorcenski that was a looong read, but worth it.
     Just a question about the last paragraph and specifically “The earth contains only so many rare earth elements”: does it? AFAIK the naming of those is a misnomer, and they are in fact abundant, with large deposits all over the globe, just not yet commercially exploited. Certainly finite supply, but not scarce enough be an issue any time soon.

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     Ivan Andriollo :mastodon: (andriollo@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Nov-2023 00:26:54 JST Ivan Andriollo :mastodon:

     @emilygorcenski true, but I read somewhere, can’t remember the source, that large deposit where sitting on the sea floor, in the South Pacific. Not a very populated or contested area. Just no need to get it now, as China has a lot of it available in close proximity to where it’s used. This might change though due to the current geopolitical climate.

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     jack the nonabrasive (karabaic@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Nov-2023 00:28:05 JST jack the nonabrasive

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     @emilygorcenski I liked the post. A useful resource may be Gebru & Torres’s work. I know you mentioned Gebru’s firing, but she and others have done significant work on the TESCREAL bundle—transhumanism, extropianism, singularitarianism, cosmism, rationalism, effective altruism, longtermism—at the Distributed AI Research Institute since then.

     Also recommend the podcast, Mystery AI Hype Theater 3000 with Emily Bender, Alex Hanna, and guests. (dair.org)

     https://youtu.be/P7XT4TWLzJw?si=Tq1mNJiPi08jbo_6

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     hnapel (hnapel@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Nov-2023 06:56:33 JST hnapel

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     I made it to the end! I needed more than 45 minutes but I'm a slow reader. Molly @molly0xfff brought me here (thanks Molly!), she wrote on effective altruism also on her Substack. This embeds it more deeply in historic perspective. What a good piece! ❤️

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     Luke Channings (lukechannings@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 11:44:53 JST Luke Channings

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     @emilygorcenski I just got around to reading this - I'm glad I did. It's thought provoking and very well written.

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     David O'Brien (iamdavidobrien@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 15:05:41 JST David O'Brien

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     • Jonathan Korman

     I certainly did, and I certainly found it a worthwhile use of 30mins of my life.

     A hugely thoughtful, wide-ranging and persuasive argument. Thank you for writing it.

     And h/t @Miniver for alerting me to it.

     @emilygorcenski

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     David Chasteen (chasteen@bbq.snoot.com)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 15:05:43 JST David Chasteen

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     @emilygorcenski Just wanted to say that as a (tertiary, ecumenical) Franciscan Novice, and CISO, I really enjoyed this synthesis. I think you're right on the money.

     Everyone's always trying to Immanentize the eschaton.

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     John Shirley (johnshirley2024@wandering.shop)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 15:05:45 JST John Shirley

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     @emilygorcenski How many science fiction stories predicted that we'd one day be worshipping "a computer" or some artificial intelligence? Numerous. Were they wrong? Not necessarily. Will an AI become conscious? Nope. But can it appear as if it is? Yep. Will this be exploited for social control? If we allow it.

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     cchelberg (cchelberg@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 15:05:48 JST cchelberg

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     @emilygorcenski
     That is a good burn line.

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