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   Damien Marie AtHope (damienmarieathope@kolektiva.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 20:33:09 JST Damien Marie AtHope

   Israeli Archaeologists Find Earliest Evidence of War in Southern Levant

   Industrial production of aerodynamically efficient slingstones almost 8,000 years ago in what is today’s Israel wasn’t done to hunt animals

   https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/2023-11-22/ty-article-magazine/israeli-archaeologists-find-earliest-evidence-of-war-in-southern-levant/0000018b-f2d6-d558-a3eb-f7df10480000

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     gnutelephony (gnutelephony@floss.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 20:33:08 JST gnutelephony

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     @DamienMarieAtHope the beginnings of what we "call" civilization sadly defined by industrialization of war.

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     gnutelephony (gnutelephony@floss.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 20:37:09 JST gnutelephony

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     @DamienMarieAtHope I prefer to think of the haudenosaunee, who developed agriculture and labor specialization with no capitalist or pre-capitalist phase, and developed an advanced gift economy.

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     Damien Marie AtHope (damienmarieathope@kolektiva.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 20:37:10 JST Damien Marie AtHope

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     @gnutelephony My art

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     gnutelephony (gnutelephony@floss.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 20:41:47 JST gnutelephony

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     @DamienMarieAtHope the birth of the state has been the death of true humanity. But yes, it is also important to better understand how this came about.

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     Damien Marie AtHope (damienmarieathope@kolektiva.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 20:41:48 JST Damien Marie AtHope

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     @gnutelephony@floss.socialMy art

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     Damien Marie AtHope (damienmarieathope@kolektiva.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 20:46:13 JST Damien Marie AtHope

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     @gnutelephony Ro me the pre-capitalist phases was begore 7,000 years ago to me. My art

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     gnutelephony (gnutelephony@floss.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 20:46:13 JST gnutelephony

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     @DamienMarieAtHope that's an interesting question. I do usually think of it being much later, with the rise of later city states and first empires like the Hittites, etc.

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     gnutelephony (gnutelephony@floss.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 20:48:14 JST gnutelephony

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     @DamienMarieAtHope but your art is the first good "broad" view of prior periods and origins, and without a good overview of those periods it is much harder to see.

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     Damien Marie AtHope (damienmarieathope@kolektiva.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 20:56:49 JST Damien Marie AtHope

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     @gnutelephony I agree. I strive to understand the global view. Like these two art of mine.

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     gnutelephony (gnutelephony@floss.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 20:56:49 JST gnutelephony

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     @DamienMarieAtHope when I visited the sami in Finland I was in some ways surprised by how distantly familiar their hunting practices and sweat lodges seemed.

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     Damien Marie AtHope (damienmarieathope@kolektiva.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 20:58:17 JST Damien Marie AtHope

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     @gnutelephony I appreciate all your thoughtful responses.

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     gnutelephony (gnutelephony@floss.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 20:58:17 JST gnutelephony

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     @DamienMarieAtHope and I really appreciate your overviews. It helps make it easier to understand and consider the distant past.