@p@sjw@slash The MDN era of Youtube was something else. Far more wholesome and creative directed that the subsequent Ad era. And probably far more open in terms of content.
@TheMadPirate@sjw@slash Antediluvian, the flood in this case being culture war bullshit. There was an okay spot where it was using <video> tags instead of Flash but before the Deluge.
@TheMadPirate@sjw@slash I remember them not loading at all because proprietary plugin that was not available for Linux, and when it was, it was a 32-bit version, and then eventually they released a 64-bit version that I didn't want to run so I made use of a separate browser profile and then it crashed the browser half the time. So I didn't look at YouTube. Then for a while it was HTML5 and no Flash and no scoldy SJW stuff getting recommeded at me and no outraged anti-SJW stuff getting recommended at me and no "MY CHANNEL HAS BEEN DEMONETIZED" videos, and it was fine for a couple of years and now it's shit again and half the time it throttles me and it's all ads and everything interesting on it is banned for wrongthink.
If you want a vision of the future, it is a DRM'd boot, recommending advertiser-friendly content that contains paid promotions at a human face, forever.
@p@sjw@slash > I remember them not loading at all because proprietary plugin that was not available for Linux, and when it was, it was a 32-bit version, and then eventually they released a 64-bit version that I didn't want to run
I know what you mean. I am running a VMware VM on Win7 and YouTube won't allow me to see livestreams because this version of VMware Player has no 3D acceleration support.
>If you want a vision of the future, it is a DRM'd boot, recommending advertiser-friendly content that contains paid promotions at a human face, forever.
That sure is what it looks like. I think Google is starting to get desperate with the ad-revenue and the Ad-Blockers, so it would not surprise me if they eventually make the move to DRM'd content.
@p@sjw@TheMadPirate it is, and it’s just kept being super consistent while all the other platforms have gone through hype cycles. At some point I expect video content is going to swing over to it when the secret’s out.
@slash@TheMadPirate@sjw I haven't been through there since they went from just some site that had weird videos about buttseks into a UGC place.
One interesting thing about Flash is that you could have a site like NewGrounds because there was this sandboxed environment. You can't do that so easily with JavaScript. fda--taint_of_love.webm
@p@sjw@slash@TheMadPirate Qemu-kvm can be used with virglrenderer for 3d graphics, a bit of a pain to set up and not sure if that would help with the video issue.
> I think what it comes down to is, modern platforms for people who like to create stuff barely take their opinions into account when it comes to introducing or sunsetting features.
> Newgrounds is just quietly there on the slow feature ramp, keeping what works, remaining for its creators, while the other platforms go through boom-bust phases.
@p@sjw@TheMadPirate I think what it comes down to is, modern platforms for people who like to create stuff barely take their opinions into account when it comes to introducing or sunsetting features. Youtube is the most obvious example, constantly at odds over it. Youtube can barely fix their shitty UX on their own and is at odds with their users over things as simple and obvious as the dislike button. By comparison Newgrounds started a lot of those features the others adopted and continues to actually care about preserving the older content. They cared enough about letting their creators preserve their content that they made Swivel so that nobody was beholden to poorly made flash to video solutions anymore. They’ve run their own infrastructure since they had persist at a time when they were the target of all the controversy mongering, they focus on enabling the artists who power them, they started the sound portal so animators had music from other creators to work with royalty free, which predated youtube’s sound library and tiktok’s music/sound ecosystems, and love it or hate it the portal system for voting and blamming content works at scale more often than not. Newgrounds is just quietly there on the slow feature ramp, keeping what works, remaining for its creators, while the other platforms go through boom-bust phases.
@sjw@slash That's my point, though: you smoke it and the reek of weed just permeates the place to the extent that you have to burn a bucket of boomer chemicals just to cover it. So if you want a place to smell like weed, just smoke some weed.