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   Nolan (nolan@toot.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 05:12:23 JST Nolan

   OK I take it back, Safari might be the new IE: https://github.com/nolanlawson/emoji-picker-element/pull/379

   The WebKit team has been doing amazing work recently, but it doesn't help users stuck on old versions of the OS.

   E.g. Safari 16.4 was a massive release from back in March, but about a third of Safari users are still on <=16.3. This accounts for 6.5% of *all* browsers! https://caniuse.com/mdn-api_elementinternals

   I know the solution is "just buy a new iPhone," but how much e-waste is that going to generate? And how many people can afford it?

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 05:12:19 JST feld

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     • Erik Simmler
     @esimmler @nolan browserstack.com, it runs on real devices
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     Erik Simmler (esimmler@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 05:12:23 JST Erik Simmler

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     @nolan an exacerbating factor is how annoying it is to test in older versions of Safari. In the waning days of IE we at least had a brute force solution in the form of modern.IE virtual machines.