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    Abolisyonista (abolisyonista@ni.hil.ist)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 13:30:07 JST Abolisyonista Abolisyonista

    Bizarre. The Institute for Anarchist Studies (IAS) reposted a statement on their website, “Anarchism must not be criminalized: Statement from 12 of the 61 people indicted on RICO charges in Atlanta” but a perusal of the original statement shows it was longer and contained references to show solidarity to #Palestine. In the IAS repost, these references were removed. Curious.

    Original: https://scenes.noblogs.org/post/2023/11/09/statement-from-12-of-61-rico-co-defendants-anarchism-must-not-be-criminalized/

    IAS repost: https://anarchiststudies.org/anarchism-must-not-be-criminalized/

    In conversation Tuesday, 21-Nov-2023 13:30:07 JST from ni.hil.ist permalink

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      Anarchism must not be criminalized: Statement from 12 of the 61 people indicted on RICO charges in Atlanta
      "Anarchism must not be criminalized statement from 12 of the 61 people indicted on RICO charges in Atlanta. This RICO indictment is an attempt by the state to not only criminalize dissent, but a specific set of ideas which leads to dissent and offers an alternative framework to the state and cap
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      Voline (voline@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 10:01:45 JST Voline Voline
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      @evdas @abolisyonista
      The statement at the Scenes from the Atlanta Forest blog is dated 9 Nov. The statement on the IAS web site is dated 20 Nov.

      I really doubt the IAS would have edited the statement by the 12 on their own initiative. That would be profoundly dishonest, and having worked with them in the past. I don't think they'd do that.

      The 12 may have chosen to to change their 11/09 statement. I asked in a comment on the IAS web site why the difference between the two statements exists. We'll see what the IAS say ...

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      eat veggies daily and survive (evdas@503junk.house)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 10:01:45 JST eat veggies daily and survive eat veggies daily and survive
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      @Voline @abolisyonista

      that is a bit of a time gap between posts, perhaps they got an edited version from a different source in between, but that's still sloppy at best -- we'll see what they say...

      In conversation Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 10:01:45 JST permalink
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      eat veggies daily and survive (evdas@503junk.house)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 10:01:47 JST eat veggies daily and survive eat veggies daily and survive
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      here are the differences, side by side:

      (12hr links:
      odt: https://share.riseup.net/#RXbtfPI18ULLgXW0Gm8DFA
      pdf: https://share.riseup.net/#ASZTuwa5YPiI4pKLU8Zp7A)

      In conversation Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 10:01:47 JST permalink

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      eat veggies daily and survive (evdas@503junk.house)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 10:01:47 JST eat veggies daily and survive eat veggies daily and survive
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      @abolisyonista

      a real slap in the face to have even deleted the solidarity valediction at the end, whoever at ias edited this should be ashamed of themselves.

      In conversation Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 10:01:47 JST permalink
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      Voline (voline@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 10:16:04 JST Voline Voline
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      @evdas @abolisyonista
      It’s not negligence on the part of the IAS if the 12 say, “Here is our latest statement that supersedes the previous one. Please post it.”

      I'll e-mail the IAS to see what's up.

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      Voline (voline@kolektiva.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 12:19:18 JST Voline Voline
      • eat veggies daily and survive

      @abolisyonista @evdas
      The IAS may not even know that a previous, and differing, version of the statement exists.

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      Voline (voline@kolektiva.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 12:19:18 JST Voline Voline
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      @abolisyonista @evdas
      The IAS has updated the page where they posted the statement by the 12 of 61 RICO defendants in Atlanta, “Anarchism Must Not Be Criminalized”. It seems the messages in solidarity with Palestine were added to AMNBC by the authors *after* it was sent to IAS.

      The version of AMNBC on the IAS web site is now the most recent one and contains the messages in solidarity with Palestine. A note from publishers was added at the top of the page, it reads:

      "An earlier version of this statement was posted on this blog which the IAS later discovered did not include important edits made in solidarity with Palestine. The statement shared with us was a version prior to these edits and we were not aware of them at the time of posting. We have now updated this post to include the entire updated statement. Thank you to those who made us aware of this, and we apologize for this oversight.”

      https://anarchiststudies.org/anarchism-must-not-be-criminalized/

      In conversation Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 12:19:18 JST permalink

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