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    Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 06:44:46 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
    • int%rmitt]nt sig^al. ...~!...)

    This little remark from @nrmacdonald is a really, really, really good point. Take half a moment to get the context and mull it over.
    https://mastodon.social/@nrmacdonald/111422360795544722

    In conversation Friday, 17-Nov-2023 06:44:46 JST from hachyderm.io permalink

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      @ned@mstdn.ca You forgot CEO productivity growth: -92%
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 06:48:30 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Noah Gibbs

      @codefolio
      I assume it’s taking the numbers from the screenshot at face value — although when I do the math myself, I get -89% CEO productivity growth, so…??

      In conversation Friday, 17-Nov-2023 06:48:30 JST permalink
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      Noah Gibbs (codefolio@ruby.social)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 06:48:31 JST Noah Gibbs Noah Gibbs
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      @inthehands @nrmacdonald

      It's a great conceptual point, though I have very little understanding of how you'd usefully measure it.

      In conversation Friday, 17-Nov-2023 06:48:31 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 06:50:16 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Noah Gibbs

      @codefolio

      ceo_pay = (1,460 + 100) / 100 = 15.6 pay growth factor vs baseline

      productivity = 1.646 pay growth factor vs baseline

      (1 − productivity / ceo_pay) × 100 = 89.45, i.e. -89% growth

      @nrmacdonald, am I missing something?

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 06:53:55 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      Properly quantifying this is of course murky far beyond my skills (and I’m not quite sure the math is correct: https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/111422433783809200), but…

      All that is missing the basic point: if we pay CEOs because they help companies succeed, then shouldn’t we expect a closer relationship between CEO pay growth and worker productivity growth? The way those two numbers diverge suggests instead this is a case of “those who control the money make off with the money.”

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        @codefolio@ruby.social ceo_pay = (1,460 + 100) / 100 = 15.6 pay growth factor vs baseline productivity = 1.646 pay growth factor vs baseline productivity / ceo_pay = 0.1055 pay-per-productivity factor vs baseline (1 − productivity / ceo_pay) × 100 = 89.45, i.e. -89% growth @nrmacdonald@mastodon.social, am I missing something?

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