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   Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Nov-2023 07:16:49 JST Evan Prodromou

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   • marymessall

   @marymessall I can give you the Wikipedia article on self-determination.

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-determination?wprov=sfla1

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     marymessall (marymessall@mendeddrum.org)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Nov-2023 07:16:50 JST marymessall

     @evan Define "peoples."

     This sounds like nationalism to me, and I'm against. Tends to lead to ethnic cleansing in the long run....

     Demographic change can lead to a "people" becoming a minority in "their own" country. And then what? Drive out the usurpers? Or ditch democracy? Or both?