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   Gyaru Enjoyer (locagainstwall@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Nov-2023 00:11:09 JST Gyaru Enjoyer

   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
   @p Does FSE not support editing posts?
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     pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Nov-2023 00:13:17 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     @locagainstwall It does not. It does not even recognize posts that have been edited externally.
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     pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Nov-2023 02:29:36 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     > So if I'm replying to someone who is on FSE and I forgot to mention something, I gotta post that in a new reply for them to see it,
     
     Better than if you post some long thing and then they read it and then there's an edit and they have to figure out what changed. That was a bigger problem with delete-and-redraft than the hacky implementation: I'd get three versions of a six-paragraph message, I read the first one, then I see the second one, and what changed? Was it important or did they fix their spelling or just decide that one word sounded better than the other? How do I know, should I reread it? Is it worth the effort or am I putting more energy into reading the message than they put into writing it?
     
     That problem hasn't been fixed with edits, they just gave it a more complicated implementation.
     
     > Any particular reason why btw?
     
     I thought the image answered this.
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     Gyaru Enjoyer (locagainstwall@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Nov-2023 02:29:39 JST Gyaru Enjoyer

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     • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
     @p Oh okay. And yeah, that was my question basically. So if I'm replying to someone who is on FSE and I forgot to mention something, I gotta post that in a new reply for them to see it, since edits won't go through. Any particular reason why btw?
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     Yukkuri (iamtakingiteasy@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Nov-2023 05:55:50 JST Yukkuri

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     • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
     @p @locagainstwall Sounds like client problem. Should be relatively trivial to display highlighted line/character diff between selected revisions.
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     pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Nov-2023 06:32:22 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     • Yukkuri
     @iamtakingiteasy @locagainstwall
     
     > Sounds like client problem.
     
     You could say that about anything, practically. Expecting a complex client is a server problem. Expecting a dozen clients to absorb the complexity is a CADT problem, expecting them to cope with a dozen servers' different ideas about how to implement the feature is worse.
     
     The "how to edit posts without making it terrible" discussions happened a long time ago, the worst version got implemented. "No feature" is better than "bad feature", so FSE went with "no feature". Other servers went with "bad feature", that's their call. It is a network, plenty of room for varied servers running varied software, but the simpler things are, the easier it is for hackers to build servers/clients, sysadmins to deploy them, and users operate them. Edits are a lot of complexity for all three of those groups, and they provide dubious value. I intend to ignore post editing to the extent possible.
     
     > Should be relatively trivial to display highlighted line/character diff between selected revisions.
     
     It's easy to add one feature, in isolation, to one client that talks to one server. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinatorial_explosion
     
     This thread, this is part of the complexity. Here is a person that edits posts, and FSE doesn't support that and FSE isn't the only server that doesn't support that, and while there exist any servers that don't support that, this complexity gets pushed onto the user.
     
     I use bloat, PleromaFE, and the ssh interface. There are people here using MastoFE, different versions of bloat, Husky/Tusky, Subway Tooter, etc. Except the ssh interface, all of those clients talk to different versions of Pleroma, Mastodon, etc.