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   cybik :deifirev: (root@sms.cybik.moe)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Nov-2023 09:47:13 JST cybik :deifirev:

   • Christine Lemmer-Webber

   @cwebber so let me get this straight.

   * Synapse and Dendrite pre-date the Matrix Foundation
   * Matrix devs *created* Element
   * Matrix devs *bestowed* Synapse and Dendrite to the Matrix Foundation
   * Element is now forking Synapse and Dendrite for... reasons?

   Does this make any sort of sense or is someone at Element pissed they don't have 150% of the decision power?

   Or am I reading too much into this.

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     Luis Villa (luis_in_brief@social.coop)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Nov-2023 09:47:12 JST Luis Villa

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     • Christine Lemmer-Webber

     @root @cwebber From their own post, it sounds like the rationale (whether real or misdirection I can’t say) is that Matrix is now being called for in contracts, and they’re irritated that other parties are free-riding to bag those contracts without contributing back to core. Which is reasonable at some level. But the CLA then sort of torpedoes it. AGPL and future decision-making power *to the foundation* would be defensible, this not so much.

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     Carl Schwan :kde: (carlschwan@floss.social)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Nov-2023 13:33:56 JST Carl Schwan :kde:

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     • Christine Lemmer-Webber
     • Luis Villa

     @luis_in_brief @root @cwebber Anyone following a bit the activities of Element has been seeing a lot of desperate call for help from Element. Financially they are not looking so good, they laid off some of their employees earlier this year, they tried to make the foundation more powerful by trying to find additional sponsors (which was not particularly foundation) and from rumeurs I heard they lost various tenders for Matrix based solutions to the typical public sectors integrator.

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