Embed this noticeNEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Nov-2023 07:33:37 JST
NEETzscheIf STEM millennials default on our student loans en masse it's going to actually be the death of academia. It won't just be that some degrees are useless, but that basically all degrees are useless. Even the shitlibbiest of shitlib millennials who go through permanent (or even temporary but still long-term) financial ruin from student loan default will beat that drum to their graves.
@NEETzsche To this day, I cannot wrap my head around why are universities trying to be 3 fucking things at once. 1) Education facilities (barely) 2) Scientific shit (however that is supposed to be connected) 3) Money extraction facilities for people who didn't have the "I wanna be an astronaut" talk with their dad at the age of 6.
Undergraduate programs are supposed to provide education. Postgraduate education, like masters and PhD programs are meant to conduct research, which is the discovery of new knowledge. The money extraction part is kind of a recent contrivance. It’s not that universities don’t perform any function – the first two are perfectly legitimate – it’s that the ones in the West went from absolutely world class to complete trash in my lifetime. It’s tragic, but it’s reality.
@NEETzsche Well, no. If universities were about Education, it would not be locked into a credit system, and closed up. On the opposite, they would allow you to study every subject for years, from outside, and get certification about your abilities.
I am public about the fact, that I passed literally all classes and the final test. Yet, according to the UNI, I am an uneducated shithead, because they didn't like my batchelor thesis. Does that seem like an education institution?
@NEETzsche Also, there were unironically group projects in half of the classes. You know.... Because 1 person making 5 other people pass is what I call education :omegalul:
It seems like an academy. All institutions are flawed. That’s never going to change. But there are certainly degrees of grift, of failure. My alma mater offered all kinds of fringe benefits to being a matriculated student, and I took advantage of them. Access to supercomputers I wouldn’t otherwise get access to. Access to the forge, which had sophisticated equipment. Courses on how to use it, which you really couldn’t learn except as a hands-on experience, making purely online courses a waste. You could get help on parts of the material that you were struggling with in a way that an online course does not really offer. Connections, job-hunting opportunities, the list goes on. You have to have an eye for these things but they absolutely are present.
But universities, today? All that shit is gone, at least in America. And it’s replaced with pure grift and ideology. It went from expensive but useful to even more expensive but basically valueless.
@NEETzsche Funny.... I definitely used the school for job hunting, since obviously, that is its entire purpose.
But when I talked to my brother about the job hunting days, where companies LITERALLY SET UP STANDS where they beg you to work for them..... he said, that he didn't get that it was the point. :awooREEE:
Recruiting used to be aggressive. It’s not anymore. They don’t care. They don’t want you. They think we’re all expendable, and it’s true for the purposes of quarterly reports, but not for the purposes of running a civilization.
That shit is coming home to roost. Right now the only people who take corporations seriously are diversity hires, and they only do so because of the constant barrage of diversity propaganda pumping them up and attacking white men.
@NEETzsche Also, just a weird question. We all love to hate on Academia. It seems to be collapsing, and my personal opinion is, that scientific method does not contain a "peer review" step for a reason.
Peer review is a necessary evil because we’re talking about an institution. The scientific method is an approach to knowledge, but if you want to institutionalize it, you do need, well, an institution to review people’s work. The instant you add people into the mix, you are now in a social situation, not a purely intellectual one.
This isn’t to say that these institutions are automatically wrong, but it is to say that one should approach them with a degree of skepticism. Up until fairly recently, even people within these institutions did exactly that. Research universities did not always claim to be the final arbiters of truth as they do now. That they do now is a bad sign. Holding a credential used to mean that people were filtered on raw intellectual capability at the outset, and then it got honed through rigorous and/or sophisticated formal education over the course of years. Now it doesn’t mean that. Now it means you’re a member of a favored political class, like a certain race or sexual orientation or whatever.
I’ve noticed this sort of attitude among credentialed people that they think their word literally alters reality or some shit. That whichever person or entity with the biggest credential can just declare whatever and it becomes so. That the more credentialed a person is, the truer their words are by definition. This is a sign of decay and it’s partially why they put out such obviously false bullshit. If the institution’s aren’t tested by reality, but instead reality is tested by the institution’s claims, then the institution will naturally feel comfortable playing shutdown games on anybody who disagrees.
This isn’t the first time this sort of thing has happened, and it won’t be the last. But we are going to live to see these universities get reduced to status symbols for special interest groups to an even greater extent. The decline isn’t over.
I used her video only, because she's the only person I know, that takes sociology seriously, and makes a great content summarizing an academic research.