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   Nelson Chu Pavlosky (skyfaller@jawns.club)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 12:36:15 JST Nelson Chu Pavlosky

   • Evan Prodromou

   @evan It's possible that Hamas wants to wipe out Israel, just as Putin wants to wipe out Ukraine, and we have evidence that this is the case.

   One important difference is the power dynamics. Russia is a nuclear power and Ukraine is not. Israel is a nuclear power and Hamas is not. There is no realistic scenario where Hamas has the ability to destroy Israel, but the Israeli gov't & military seem intent on wiping out Palestine.

   And please let us remember to distinguish the gov't from the people.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 12:36:14 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @skyfaller What do you mean by "And please let us remember to distinguish the gov't from the people."?

     Why would that be important in this kind of formulation?

     We often talk about countries or nations being at war -- the UK and Argentina in the Falklands, or France and Prussia in the Franco-Prussian War.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 13:11:56 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @skyfaller that's fair and important for us to remember, thanks!

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     Nelson Chu Pavlosky (skyfaller@jawns.club)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 13:11:57 JST Nelson Chu Pavlosky

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @evan I simply mean that Russia attempting to destroy Ukraine doesn't mean that all Russians want to kill or absorb Ukrainians, for example.

     I feel this is especially important in the case of Palestine, where it does not seem entirely correct to say that Palestine invaded Israel and murdered and kidnapped people.