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   Rabbi Jill Zimmerman (rabbijill@sfba.social)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 16:24:32 JST Rabbi Jill Zimmerman

   Is it too much to ask for jewish lives - children to grandparents - to be valued? Where are the calls for Hamas to stop bombing Israel? And to release the civilian hostages? Why is the ceasefire asked of Israel alone? Why in 2023 do Jews have to fight to be seen & valued? I believe all human lives are sacred & I cry for each life taken. There is a dearth of balance here that I am calling out. I’m heartbroken that many of my fellow progressives have abandoned us.

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     Rabbi Jill Zimmerman (rabbijill@sfba.social)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 16:28:26 JST Rabbi Jill Zimmerman

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     @gwit the only path forward - which most Israelis agree with! - is that the land needs to be shared in some way. I pray it is possible. What I DIDN’T expect was to feel so unsafe & scared as an American Jew here in the US. it’s shaken me to my core.

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     Gay Whitlam (gwit@aus.social)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 16:28:30 JST Gay Whitlam

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     @rabbijill I think it should be shared too. I think a "two state solution" is silly because its establishing two ethnostates, and neither side will be happy with the outcome. The problem is neither side seems happy with sharing. It's a really sad situation.

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     Rabbi Jill Zimmerman (rabbijill@sfba.social)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 16:28:31 JST Rabbi Jill Zimmerman

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     @gwit there were nearly a million Jews kicked out of the Arab countries they lived in & Israel was the only place they could go. My opinion: the land needs to be shared. How I wish the Palestinians had accepted a state when it was on the table - but their leadership said no. And here we are. Again - the history is complex. Not black and white. The Palestinians need their own land. The Israelis do too. I’m going to keep believing it is somehow possible.

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     Gay Whitlam (gwit@aus.social)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 16:28:32 JST Gay Whitlam

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     @rabbijill It's also the ancestral land of Arab citizens of the Levant, whose consent was not given for an apartheid state to deport their citizens and take their hones. Also, I believe Ashkenazi jews and other European jews are from Khazarian lands no?

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     Gay Whitlam (gwit@aus.social)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 16:28:33 JST Gay Whitlam

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     @rabbijill I condemn Israel because its an illegitimate apartheid settler state, I've done it long before the current war kicked off. Hamas is condemned, that's a no brainer. The reason people condemn Israel more loudly is because of the lack of condemnation present in the media cycle.
     Not many people truly support Hamas. I dont. Theyre Jihadists who'd stone me to death given the chance.

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     Rabbi Jill Zimmerman (rabbijill@sfba.social)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 16:28:33 JST Rabbi Jill Zimmerman

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     @gwit Israel is an illegitimate settler state? What does that even mean? For Jews this is our indigenous ancestral land. If you don’t know that, there’s nothing more to talk about.

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     Rabbi Jill Zimmerman (rabbijill@sfba.social)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 16:28:34 JST Rabbi Jill Zimmerman

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     2/ no - I don’t agree with the Israeli government or the settlers. I don’t agree with withholding aid. AND - The anti jewish hatred I have experienced since Oct 7 has been the worst of my entire life & I’m struggling to understand how quickly the world turned from a few days of sympathy to condemnation of Israel. LEARN the history & complexity of the entire region & you will see that there is enough blame to go around. Stop being armchair experts & participating with others who would like our people to be thrown into the sea.

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     Rabbi Jill Zimmerman (rabbijill@sfba.social)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 16:30:07 JST Rabbi Jill Zimmerman

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     3/ do you realize that jewish children in elementary schools - college are AFRAID to go to school? Are being harassed daily? Posters of hostages being torn down? Jewish stores vandalized? IN THIS COUNTRY. where is the outrage? Jews, stalwart supporters of liberation movements & democracy for years feel abandoned in our hour of need.