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   Mitch Wagner (mitchw@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 02:41:30 JST Mitch Wagner

   • Cory Doctorow

   Cory Doctorow @pluralistic: “The idea that creative workers aren't workers is bullshit.“ Why creative workers get screwed in labor negotiations (until very recently) https://pluralistic.net/2023/10/25/huzzah/

   “Creative workers are part of a class of workers who suffer from ‘vocational awe,’ the sense that because your job is satisfying and/or worthy, you don't deserve to get paid for it.” (1/3) 🧵

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     Mitch Wagner (mitchw@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 02:41:22 JST Mitch Wagner

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     • Cory Doctorow
     • tinfoilhat
     • Wade Roberts

     @tinfoilhat @waderoberts @pluralistic Copyrights and patents lead to hairy ethical and philosophical issues. All ideas are built on other ideas. If I write a detective novel, how much of that is really original?

     Treating payment as a labor issue sidesteps a lot of that difficult philosophy. If you spend a year writing a detective novel, and I read it, I have gotten benefit from your labor and you deserve to be paid for it.

     H/T to Cory for thinking that led me here but Im not speaking fr him.

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     tinfoilhat@nzsocial.net's status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 02:41:25 JST tinfoilhat

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     • Cory Doctorow
     • Wade Roberts

     @waderoberts @mitchw @pluralistic would creatives be better off without copyrights and patents?

     pettter repeated this.
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     Wade Roberts (waderoberts@aus.social)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 02:41:30 JST Wade Roberts

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     • Cory Doctorow

     @mitchw @pluralistic the greatest trick capitalists ever pulled was convincing creative individuals that copyright and patents protect and serve their interests.