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   feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 00:34:52 JST feld

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   • Alex
   Same thing with FreeBSD -- self-hosting it all is a requirement and there weren't many good options available for a long long time
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     PaulDavisTheFirst (pauldavisthefirst@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 00:34:53 JST PaulDavisTheFirst

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     • Alex

     @a_lex_ander @marcan

     >> those rejecting modern tools like GitLab are gatekeepers,

     Would like to mention one subtle nuance here. Over at ardour.org, we *refuse* to use non-self hosted systems like Github/Gitlab as our *canonical repository*. We believe that historical experience at sourceforge and direction at github confirm the wisdom of our preference for self-hosted options.

     However, we are happy to use github as a public-facing locus for PRs.

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     Alex (a_lex_ander@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 00:34:54 JST Alex

     @marcan I've had timely responses in the DRM subsystem and constructive interactions because they use GitLab.

     Trying to report a kernel bug via email never once got feedback (except for the one time where a Lenovo employee put in their weight).

     For me everything points in the same direction: those rejecting modern tools like GitLab are gatekeepers, hiding immense complexity behind the pseudo argument of "accessibility".

     Thankfully a lot of other projects do it right.