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   feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 20-Oct-2023 23:24:08 JST feld

   • A* Ulven :verified_blobcat:
   • Joe Mansfield
   • Alexander Hanff
   You can't even generate a consent modal to approve/deny loading a javascript file with HTML. You need javascript for that.
   
   So they would need consent to serve you javascript to ask you for consent to serve you javascript.
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 20-Oct-2023 23:50:49 JST feld

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     • A* Ulven :verified_blobcat:
     • Joe Mansfield
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     What personal data is involved here? What specific clause is being violated?
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     Alexander Hanff (thatprivacyguy@eupolicy.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Oct-2023 23:50:50 JST Alexander Hanff

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     @feld @AlgorithmWolf @helvick incorrect the javascript to present the consent request would be considered as strictly necessary and therefore exempt because it is required to meet a legal obligation - you really need to actually read the law to be able to comment because so far I am seeing a lot of utter nonsense arguments based on complete ignorance.

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Saturday, 21-Oct-2023 00:17:14 JST feld

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     • A* Ulven :verified_blobcat:
     • Joe Mansfield
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     This covers the entire situation really well: https://iabeurope.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/20160516-IABEU_Guidance_AdBlockerDetection.pdf
     
     And the most important part:
     
     > The Article 29 Working Party is an advisory body and its opinions are not binding – but their opinions showcase that the legal situation regarding ad blocker detection is far from clear.
     
     So this is a huge nothingburger. Only the courts can decide.
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     Alexander Hanff (thatprivacyguy@eupolicy.social)'s status on Saturday, 21-Oct-2023 00:17:16 JST Alexander Hanff

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     @feld @AlgorithmWolf @helvick again... this is not about personal data, personal data is irrelevant, the ePrivacy Directive has no concern about personal data (that is GDPR).

     I have explained exactly what the issue is many, many times, I have provided references of EU case law, I have provided a link to the legal opinion of the EU Commission.

     I can lead you to water but I cannot force you to drink. Open your eyes, clear sight is a beautiful thing.

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 21-Oct-2023 01:08:18 JST Sexy Moon

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     @thatprivacyguy @feld @AlgorithmWolf @helvick
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Saturday, 21-Oct-2023 01:10:50 JST feld

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     I see you have a Master's Degree in screenshots that show the ePrivacy Directive is about personal data
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 21-Oct-2023 01:12:15 JST Sexy Moon

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     • Joe Mansfield
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     @feld @thatprivacyguy @AlgorithmWolf @helvick I have been making screenshots for over 30 years.
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Saturday, 21-Oct-2023 01:15:41 JST feld

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     I have an official letter from Princess Peach
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 21-Oct-2023 01:17:29 JST Sexy Moon

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     @feld @AlgorithmWolf @helvick @thatprivacyguy it's also not clear to me that serving a javascript file is communication in the sense of a "communication service" I guess that would be the video, I'm going by the definitions in Article 2. I'm not a lawyer so maybe I'm totally wrong though!
     
     Fuck ads and fuck Google all that that but my personal feeling is that collecting just enough information about my browser to not show me a video if I refused the ads doesn't damage my privacy in any meaningful way. If a law said it did then that law is dumb.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 21-Oct-2023 01:20:28 JST Sexy Moon

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     @feld @thatprivacyguy @AlgorithmWolf @helvick random letters from bureaucrats aren't legally binding.
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Saturday, 21-Oct-2023 01:24:58 JST feld

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     But it has the official letterhead and everything?!
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     A* Ulven :verified_blobcat: (algorithmwolf@ioc.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 21-Oct-2023 01:27:13 JST A* Ulven :verified_blobcat:

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     @Moon @feld
     @helvick

     LMAO, Moon the guy himself came into this thread, I'm honoured.

     But yeah, I agree with the general sentiment. Fuck Google and fuck ads, but I cannot really understand how JavaScript being executed on your browser to determine if you are watching ads is legally problematic.

     Regardless, in the case this is actually in breach of law, and YouTube gets slapped with a fine or something, they can always revert to the other method I mentioned of generating random IDs for ads, and refusing to serve your connection if you never loaded those ads with the unique ID tied to your session. That would work purely server-side and without any JavaScript.

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 21-Oct-2023 01:27:13 JST Sexy Moon

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     @AlgorithmWolf @feld @helvick I'm not YouTube Moon, in case that's who you're thinking of.
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     A* Ulven :verified_blobcat: (algorithmwolf@ioc.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 21-Oct-2023 01:28:23 JST A* Ulven :verified_blobcat:

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     @Moon @feld @helvick You're shitposter dot club moon, that's exactly who I was thinking.

     Who the fuck is YouTube Moon lmao

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 21-Oct-2023 01:29:31 JST Sexy Moon

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     @AlgorithmWolf @feld @/helvick@mastodon.ie some buy named Moon gets million views on YouTube now, lately been getting a lot of people thinking I'm him. Thanks, I'm honored to be recognized for my actual self.