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   anilmc (anilmc@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 01:13:19 JST anilmc

   199 hostages are held in Gaza by Hamas, according to Israeli govt. (Al Jazeera Live today). There are 5,200 Palestinians, inc 33 women & 170 children, currently in Israeli incarceration, many convicted of civic offenses such as printing flyers and waving flags - i.e. political prisoners as defined by Amnesty International. Children are often brutalised and charged as adults. 1264 Palestinians are held in administrative detention without any due process or charge.

   https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/8/why-are-so-many-palestinian-prisoners-in-israeli-jails

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     anilmc (anilmc@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 01:13:26 JST anilmc

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     This is not at all to minimise the obvious suffering for those taken hostage and those who love them, or to whatabout the crime of taking them in the first place. It is to give vital causal and proportional context and to challenge the terminology of Palestinians taking Israeli civilians as "kidnapping" if the word used for Palestinians held for noncrimes or no charge is "arrest" or "sentenced".