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   Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 06:20:40 JST Sexy Moon
   It wasn't like, a rule, but criticizing Matrix even just a few months ago just got you eye rolls and dismissals, but now I guess one or two people successfully said the emperor has no clothes and now people accept it.
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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 06:23:45 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     • DulceKennedy
     @ElDeadKennedy @Moon Irc is the best :pepe_cofe:
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     DulceKennedy (eldeadkennedy@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 06:23:46 JST DulceKennedy

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     @Moon i never liked matrix
     
     mainly because i've never used matrix
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 06:24:24 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @Moon the thing is, i think many people are going overboard with it, saying that matrix is trash and has always been trash. I have used matrix for years and it was alright. these days i'd probably rather run xmpp or just use signal if i need free software, or telegram or whatsapp if i don't care.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 06:24:30 JST iced depresso

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     • DulceKennedy
     @ElDeadKennedy @Moon i liked psyc :blobcatderpy:
     
     matrix i think shit the bed with the graph merging protocol. it makes it real hard to do anything. like if someone is banned its still legal for them to spam because they just insert the events in the graph before they were banned, and there's no way to discern between that and a genuine netsplit. and the docs straight up say this because they have recommendations for how clients should render such an attack
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     Posting Hellbound (postinghellbound@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 06:26:46 JST Posting Hellbound

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     @Moon there is no guarantee the new consensus is better/more accurate than the old one. that said, i have been always of two minds about it: the E2EE and federation aspects were always a big value-add to me, but the UX also always had questionable directions. I wouldn't even permit redactions that cause your client to drop data, for example
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 06:28:58 JST Sexy Moon

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     @PostingHellbound that's fair, I'm just happy more people are starting to agree with me so I don't feel so crazy.
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     ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 06:31:15 JST ロミンちゃん

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     @Moon well it's what naturally ends happening after years of running synapse
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 06:32:42 JST Sexy Moon

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     • on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
     @lain I just had constant problems with performance and malfunctioning rooms so my opinion of it is very negative. Also when I wrote 10grans bot I immediately ran into problems, filed an issue on their github and it didn't get fixed for over two years.
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     Posting Hellbound (postinghellbound@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 06:33:33 JST Posting Hellbound

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     @Moon yeah, i'm with you there. I don't like the thing where people ignore arguments against "their side" and arguments for "the enemy side". There's nothing so great or so terrible to be worth doing that for.
     
     I just wanted to jump into the details
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 06:34:03 JST Sexy Moon

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     @PostingHellbound I am actually running a Matrix server again just for myself that was written in Rust, and it's maybe 90% working correctly, I can't enter one of my own rooms from the old server for some vague "compatibility" reason.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 06:35:42 JST Sexy Moon

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     • Posting Hellbound
     @dragnucs @PostingHellbound I don't believe it.
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     التنينوكس (dragnucs@social.touha.me)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 06:35:43 JST التنينوكس

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     @Moon @PostingHellbound matrix can help you get laid.

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     Posting Hellbound (postinghellbound@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 06:36:18 JST Posting Hellbound

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     @Moon yeah, an outdated client i keep around to talk to an outdated server can read some rooms on another server, but can't send. i don't know why, but it's bizarre
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     DulceKennedy (eldeadkennedy@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 06:52:44 JST DulceKennedy

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     @dcc @Moon you said it, brother
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 07:14:12 JST feld

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     • on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
     They never fixed the problem of "too much undocumented, too much changing so fast that no alternative implementation can catch up"
     
     It's been years. Where's the rewrite away from Python?
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 07:15:43 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @feld @Moon honestly, i think never having any real alternative (both client and server side) was probably good as it made it possible for them to experiment with changes, nearly as much as a proprietary server would do. but then being wedded to an inefficient 'platonic world of ideas' type protocol makes even less sense.