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   Deadren (djdarren@mendeddrum.org)'s status on Monday, 09-Oct-2023 23:23:50 JST Deadren

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   Because there just isn't any good reason for any working class* person to vote conservative that I can see. Not one.

   They overpromise and underdeliver every single time. But still, the voters fall for it and give them another chance, as if the evidence suggests this time will be different. Except, it's never any different. Tories promise X&Y, then just...don't.

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     Deadren (djdarren@mendeddrum.org)'s status on Monday, 09-Oct-2023 23:23:51 JST Deadren

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     I'd also like to see evidence of whether government policy has actively made things worse for regular working class people, or whether we're just basing our feelings on vibes.

     I'm pretty sure they have, and things genuinely are financially shitter because of policy, but around an election it would be very useful to have solid figures to point at.

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     Deadren (djdarren@mendeddrum.org)'s status on Monday, 09-Oct-2023 23:23:53 JST Deadren

     I'd be interested to see if anyone has made a website that examines political promises and tallies them up with the outcomes (if any).

     For example; in a manifesto a party promises to increase nurses' pay by 15%, but when in government fight the union and only end up giving them 3%.

     I've been thinking about why working class people vote Tory, despite them never, never making good on their promises, and would like to see the data on what they do actually provide.