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    Bob Loblaw aka: Go-kart Mozart (eleutheromania@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 05:03:26 JST Bob Loblaw aka: Go-kart Mozart Bob Loblaw aka: Go-kart Mozart

    Yeah, let's forget about all that mandate stuff.

    Federal Agency Sues Businesses for Firing Workers Over COVID Vaccine Refusal https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/us/federal-agency-sues-businesses-for-firing-workers-over-covid-vaccine-refusal-5503250?utm_source=andshare

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      Federal Agency Sues Businesses for Firing Workers Over COVID Vaccine Refusal
      Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 bars discrimination over religion.
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 05:03:26 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      You're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't. At modern law, everyone loses.
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 05:10:05 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      Am I the only one who finds it strange that federal officers get qualified immunity if they have a good faith belief that what they were doing was legal and there's no counter precedent on point, but the average citizen gets fucked when they act in the same manner? 🤔
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      Sir Murray_N (murray_n@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 05:18:27 JST Sir Murray_N Sir Murray_N
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      Strange isn’t the word I would use. Tyrannical is more like it.

      In conversation Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 05:18:27 JST permalink
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 05:18:27 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      At common law, an officer who acted beyond the scope of authority was per se civilly liable. Our 4th Amendment was originally based on this principle.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entick_v_Carrington
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        Entick v Carrington
        Entick v Carrington [1765] EWHC KB J98 is a leading case in English law and UK constitutional law establishing the civil liberties of individuals and limiting the scope of executive power. The case has also been influential in other common law jurisdictions and was an important motivation for the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution. It is famous for the dictum of Lord Camden: "If it is law, it will be found in our books." Facts On 11 November 1762, the King's Chief Messenger, Nathan Carrington, and three other King's messengers, James Watson, Thomas Ardran, and Robert Blackmore, broke into the home of the Grub Street writer John Entick (1703?–1773) in the parish of St Dunstan, Stepney "with force and arms". Over the course of four hours, they broke open locks and doors and searched all of the rooms before taking away 100 charts and 100 pamphlets, causing £2,000 of damage (equivalent to £317,588 in 2021). The King's messengers were acting on the orders of Lord Halifax, newly appointed Secretary of State for the Northern Department, "to make strict and diligent search for ... the author...
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      tolawson@noagendasocial.com's status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 05:33:49 JST tolawson tolawson
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      No. You're not the only one.

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      Myshkin (myshkin@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 05:59:15 JST Myshkin Myshkin
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      This whole madate, that really wasn’t a mandate was one of the sleaziest things Biden has ever done. He basically deputized all businesses so they could do whatever it wanted to fuck with people who didn’t want to get vaxxed.

      >“It would take 160 years for OSHA to get into every workplace just once,” she estimated. “It’s an understaffed, under-resourced agency to begin with.”

      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/biden-s-vaccinate-or-test-mandate-approaches-questions-arise-over-n1281130
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        Name, shame and fine: How the Biden administration could enforce its vaccine mandate
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        The Occupational Safety and Health Administration was already a strained agency before the president announced the new requirement.
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 06:02:20 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      I don't like the fact these business forced people to get vaxxed, fuck them for that, but as a general principle, I also don't like people getting fucked for what is likely good faith attempts to comply with law.

      The government is the origin of law. To hold the people accountable for its ambiguities and mixed messages is just fucked.
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      Jonaschuzzlewit (jonaschuzzlewit@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 06:13:36 JST Jonaschuzzlewit Jonaschuzzlewit
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      Exceptions to me would be health care Systems like methodist in Texas that didn't just reluctantly comply but gleefully doubled down and fired everyone who dared resist. Other systems attempted to allow as many waivers as possible not being suicidal from a staffing perspective.

      I don't blame hospitals for not seeing a future outside of the Medicare Medicaid choke chain they are all held by.

      Some jobs were very understanding and those are easy to tolerate
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 06:15:28 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      I worked with many clients with federal contracts who tried to find every means, short of the cost of litigation against the fed (which I can understand from a business expense perspective), to end run the mandate legally.
      In conversation Thursday, 05-Oct-2023 06:15:28 JST permalink

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