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   Kevin Carson (kevincarson1@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Oct-2023 03:53:43 JST Kevin Carson

   Starts out by confusing Bakunin with Proudhon, and then conflates "profit" in the sense of a net psychic gain in utility with "profit" in the sense of extracting a net surplus from labor.
   In this world of ceaseless flux, it's good to know at least one thing is a constant: Walter Block is still an idiot. https://fee.org/articles/profits-are-awesome-and-all-around-us/

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     Kevin Carson (kevincarson1@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Oct-2023 03:54:52 JST Kevin Carson

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     • NeonSnake

     @HeavenlyPossum @neonsnake Yeah, they act like the Roman or modern Blackstonian concept of "private property" as an alienable commodity, or "absolute despotic dominion," is some kind of eternal category -- and then try to retroactively impose it on all kinds of collective, communal, possessory-usufeructory, and other non-propertarian forms of land governance throughout history.
     So the people who try to recuperate Locke by saying the "property" is only legit if it's homesteaded by actual labor, or should be limited by the Proviso, or even flat-out argue for possessive "property" have their hearts in the right place -- but attempting to redefine everything from the past in terms of the "property" paradigm is still anachronistic and counter-productive.

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     HeavenlyPossum (heavenlypossum@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Oct-2023 03:54:53 JST HeavenlyPossum

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     • NeonSnake

     @KevinCarson1 @neonsnake

     Two of my least-favorite ancap bullshits:

     - profit is a synonym for utility, and

     - common property is really just private property owned in corporate

     So much intellectual effort poured into being so catastrophically wrong

     novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️ repeated this.
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     NeonSnake (neonsnake@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Oct-2023 03:54:54 JST NeonSnake

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     @KevinCarson1

     I followed the link out of a "surely not" sense of curiousity.

     Nope.

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     Kevin Carson (kevincarson1@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Oct-2023 03:54:54 JST Kevin Carson

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     • NeonSnake

     @neonsnake Block's the one who denounced Ostrom's Governing the Commons as one of the most evil books in history because it undermined belief in private property -- and then went on to argue that what she described as commons were "really joint property." So... yeah.
     He's Uncle Leo without the charisma.