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   RAUL ?? (realraul@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 12:45:13 JST RAUL ??
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 12:45:09 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Do you know the citation? "in any court" would suggest that "indictment" would include a state charge. Nonetheless, I think this law would likely be found unconstitutional. First, it eliminates a constitutional right without due process. Second, it does so whether or not the indictment relates in any way to firearms and/or it lacks any procedure for determining whether say injunctive relief or a restraining order would be appropriate (think of a red flag law where a person actually threatened another person with a gun and a court determines that the perp should be prohibited from possessing guns while out on bail). I think it exceeds the scope of New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen for that reason alone.
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     Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 12:45:10 JST Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits

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     He is under indictment, but it should only be in the state of ny. This law would be federal. @Humpleupagus
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     gav (gav@cawfee.club)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 12:45:11 JST gav

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     @Zettour @Xenophon @RealRaul hes not under indictment hes under impeachment, he has to be impeached to then be indicated
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     Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 12:45:12 JST Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits

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     How is it illegal for the president to buy a gun?
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     Zettour (zettour@gearlandia.haus)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 12:45:12 JST Zettour

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     @Xenophon @RealRaul It's because he's facing federal charges. Innocent until proven guilty effectively hasn't existed in decades in various ways that become worse by the day.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 12:54:02 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     I further note that "in any court" including state courts makes sense in light of the full faith and credit clause, which requires both states and the fed to give full faith and credit to each court's judgments. This leads to some interesting jurisdictional issues respecting first in time and supremacy. See for example the rooker-feldman doctrine.
     
     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooker%E2%80%93Feldman_doctrine
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 13:00:40 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     On a side note, I'm a jurisdiction nerd. 😏
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 13:46:21 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Well.... do you own a home and does it have any equity? Real, big time criminal lawyers usually want liens in addition to a trust/security deposit in case their client goes to prison. Jailed men don't make money and don't pay bills. Plus, they may have separate civil liability to the victim, or owe criminal restitution, which could attached to their assets at judgment. The attorney wants quick relief if necessary, i.e
     private foreclosure.
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     Lyx (lyx@cum.salon)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 13:46:23 JST Lyx

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     @Zettour @gav @Humpleupagus @Xenophon @RealRaul the real question is how illegal is it to rape speone with and automatic3d printed gun and how much do i neef to reserve for a lawyer :prisongangrape:
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     Zettour (zettour@gearlandia.haus)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 13:46:24 JST Zettour

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     @Humpleupagus @gav @Xenophon @RealRaul 18 U.S. Code § 922 - Unlawful acts. I actually screenshotted the wrong section that applied to the seller, included is the part for buyer. It's one of those gun issues that are still working their way through the different federal court jurisdictions and hasn't made it to Supreme Court yet. There's one case that allowed someone under indictment to buy a gun, but it's such a subjective ruling that there isn't going to be straightforward precedent everywhere from that. When one federal jurisdiction does something the others just take it as a suggestion.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 13:58:08 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Then I guess you'll have a chance at a peel after conviction.
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     Lyx (lyx@cum.salon)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Sep-2023 13:58:10 JST Lyx

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     @Humpleupagus @gav @meowski @Zettour @Xenophon @RealRaul hmmm well im homeless but i do have an old banana peel so i guess thats my budget