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    Kill cars for climate! (andrej@trees.social)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 00:02:57 JST Kill cars for climate! Kill cars for climate!

    It seems like the right has won. Everywhere.

    In conversation Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 00:02:57 JST from trees.social permalink
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      Walkaway Friendly Localist 🌿 (woodbark@kolektiva.social)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 00:02:55 JST Walkaway Friendly Localist 🌿 Walkaway Friendly Localist 🌿
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      @andrej the right experimented more and tried stuff. but they have not won yet. too early.
      Public opinion and the perception of the same is not same as materialised power. it does not look good, and the outlook is bleak. But its not over.

      In conversation Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 00:02:55 JST permalink
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      simsa03 (simsa03@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Monday, 25-Sep-2023 02:09:50 JST simsa03 simsa03
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      Whatever "the" "Right" means. But anyway, it's easy to have left- or green-ecological political inclinations. One is never forced to prove that one can actually do things differently. Which "the" "Left" can't as can be seen all over the Global South as well as historically in various parts of Europe.

      What is needed is a progressive Social Democratic Party like that of Brandt and Schmidt, a party that opened universities for working class people, that built #nuclear power plants... It was Helmut Schmidt who insisted in 1977 to build NPP *because of* the already running climate change. (Same did Franz Josef Strauss in 1982 btw.) He was fought (and was later ousted) by the Erhard Eppler wing of the SPD, by the "Peace" movement, by the No Nukes-movement, by the Greens, by the #counterculture.

      And more: The International Hedonist Left, the Hippies, and their consumerist hedonism since the early 1960s cost the International Union Movement at least two generations of active members, thus weakening the unions in their struggles and helped accelerate turbo capitalism and Neo Liberalism. And today? "The "Left" (or Greens or climate doomers and all the other self-righteous acitivists) insist on the comfort and consumerism made possible by the system they pretend to critique. They are the new bourgeois who think they can run modern societies with morals and renwables. And show off with their morality by blaming "the" "Right".

      It pays to have all these "left" positions. The moral highground is theirs, the lack of accountabiliy is theirs, the benefit of never having to come up with working plans is theirs... I can hardly imagine a more reactionary and self-congratulating people than those who call themselves left, green, or ecological.

      Just saying, no personal insult intended.
      In conversation Monday, 25-Sep-2023 02:09:50 JST permalink

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