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   tripu (tripu@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 09:21:59 JST tripu

   Honest question:

   Why are works of #fiction (books, comic, animation, film) depicting #rape or #pedophilia more offensive to more people and cause more calls to boycott or censorship than fiction depicting extreme #violence or #murder, when killing someone is universally regarded as worse than raping someone (morally worse) and criminal systems everywhere punish murderers more harshly than rapists (legally worse)?

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     Alexandre Oliva (lxo@gnusocial.net)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Sep-2023 09:21:58 JST Alexandre Oliva

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     I've always assumed it had more to od with taboo than anything else, but your question led me to ponder about alternatives. I'm not sure I buy freemo's theory about arousal, for I've read about the existence of arousal out of other forms of violence too, though I don't know much about its prevalence. one less cynical theory I came up was that victims of murder don't survive with trauma, whereas victims of sexual abuse do, and since sexual abuse is so common (sadly), depicting it could trigger a large fraction of the potential audience, so it would be ill advised. but that doesn't quite explain boycotts, does it? maybe the boycotts arise out of an unexpected alignment between victims, who'd rather not relive the trauma, and abusers, who'd rather not have their own crimes exposed. if this is right, it's really sad, because education, awareness and empathy seem to be the best defenses and preventions against such abuses.
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     Alexandre Oliva (lxo@gnusocial.net)'s status on Thursday, 21-Sep-2023 03:31:55 JST Alexandre Oliva

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     all good points
     I suppose I'm back to taboo, then
     I mean, I've seen people be monstered and cancelled for trying to hold a sane philosophical discussion about age of consent. it's a dialectic minefield
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     tripu (tripu@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 21-Sep-2023 03:31:57 JST tripu

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     • Alexandre Oliva

     @lxo

     I don’t think it’s about preventing victims from reviving their trauma.

     For that, we have rating systems, advisories, reviews and art critics. And adult consumers can immediately quit whatever they are reading, watching or listening to.

     Also, whoever has been ever tortured, beaten, or attacked may be a survivor of a murder attempt — and they are definitely a survivor of violence. Wouldn’t all those people be “triggered” by depictions of violence, too?