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   mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 05:03:08 JST mk

   • 𝘍𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘺𝘛𝘸𝘰

   @FortyTwo

   the difference between the right and the left on free speech.

   left: you gotta ban the right to stop them from spreading dangerous information.

   right: you gotta amplify the left so everybody can see how dangerous they are.

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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 05:04:10 JST mk

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     @FortyTwo

     the crazier the left becomes, the further center-people gets pushed to the right.

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     misterjesus (misterjesus@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 06:22:30 JST misterjesus

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     Neither is true. Each side will whine about their right to speak until they have the upper hand and then will try to silence their opposition.
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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 06:47:47 JST mk

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     • misterjesus

     @misterjesus @FortyTwo

     "Neither is true."

     1. here's a couple of people on the right that got banned FROM EVERY MAJOR PLATTFORM for speech.

     - ryan dawson
     - alex jones
     - Nicholas J. Fuentes
     - andrew tate

     and

     2. here's a rightwing twitter account amplifying looneys from the left.

     https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Alibsoftiktok%20teacher&src=typed_query

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     misterjesus (misterjesus@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 07:13:10 JST misterjesus

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     So? It isn't a refutation of what I was saying.
     
     Those without power will demand their right to speak, and those without power will deny it.
     
     Just because currently, it is people you don't support in power doesn't mean that your side will be any better once they are in power.
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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 07:14:03 JST mk

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     • misterjesus

     @misterjesus @FortyTwo

     "So? It isn't a refutation of what I was saying."

     you just said i'm wrong.

     so i provided evidence for my statements.

     if you want to have a theorie/position, find arguments for it /against it yourself.

     i'm not here to argue your strawmans.

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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 07:19:46 JST mk

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     • misterjesus

     @misterjesus @FortyTwo

     name 5 leftists that got banned from every major plattform then.

     go ahead

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     misterjesus (misterjesus@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 07:19:47 JST misterjesus

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     I do not believe "the right" is better than "the left" regarding speech. It isn't hard to understand this. There aren't any strawmen.
     
     You seem to live in this boomercon fantasy land where your political side is virtuous.
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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 07:27:37 JST mk

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     • :catnoears: Mister Lister :catnoears:
     • misterjesus

     @MisterLister @FortyTwo @misterjesus

     "He is saying people on the right get banned cause the left is in power"

     so he agrees with me then.

     "When the true right gets in power the ANYONE to the left of us will be banned for being faggots"

     objection speculation. proof your statement.

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     :catnoears: Mister Lister :catnoears: (misterlister@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 07:27:38 JST :catnoears: Mister Lister :catnoears:

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     • misterjesus
     Are you fucking retarded?
     He is saying people on the right get banned cause the left is in power
     When the true right gets in power the ANYONE to the left of us will be banned for being faggots
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     𝘍𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘺𝘛𝘸𝘰 (fortytwo@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 07:28:31 JST 𝘍𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘺𝘛𝘸𝘰

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     • misterjesus

     @MisterLister @mk @misterjesus can you list any instances where this has happened historically?

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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 07:28:31 JST mk

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     • :catnoears: Mister Lister :catnoears:
     • misterjesus

     @FortyTwo @MisterLister @misterjesus

     i don't care about your 1420 revolution. i care about the here and now..western countries in the past 50 years.

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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 07:32:31 JST mk

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     • :catnoears: Mister Lister :catnoears:
     • misterjesus

     @misterjesus @FortyTwo @MisterLister

     i'm here to defend the statements i made in my original post:

     https://mastodon.satoshishop.de/@mk/111082273823963629

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     In these statements I refer to the current situation.

     if you want to debate some biology/evolution whatever culture shit that happend 2000 years ago, go ahead and do this somewhere else, faggot.

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     misterjesus (misterjesus@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 07:32:32 JST misterjesus

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     • :catnoears: Mister Lister :catnoears:
     "Hey guys, don't you dare look to history to find examples that prove me utterly incorrect. You must find examples in this arbitrary time frame that I have specified."
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     ArdainianRight (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 07:39:24 JST ArdainianRight

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     @mk @FortyTwo
     Sometimes, but many if not most centrists are cowards who will simply move leftward to accommodate the psychos.
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     misterjesus (misterjesus@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 07:45:08 JST misterjesus

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     • :catnoears: Mister Lister :catnoears:
     > i'm here to defend the statements i made in my original post
     
     Which is boomercon fantasy land. It is amazing that a bong has to tell you this.
     
     > if you want to debate some biology/evolution whatever culture shit that happend 2000 years ago
     
     You are straw-manning me now.
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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 07:45:08 JST mk

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     • :catnoears: Mister Lister :catnoears:
     • misterjesus

     @misterjesus @FortyTwo @MisterLister

     "Which is boomercon fantasy land."

     What is argumentum ad hominem?

     https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

     "You are straw-manning me now."

     i'm telling you to fuck off and not to argue points that i'm putting in your mouth.

     you don't know what strawman means.

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     misterjesus (misterjesus@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 07:50:00 JST misterjesus

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     • :catnoears: Mister Lister :catnoears:
     LOL. You can't even get the fallacies right.
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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 07:50:00 JST mk

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     @misterjesus

     which one?

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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 07:52:22 JST mk

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     @misterjesus

     i mentioned

     ad-hominem
     https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

     and

     strawman
     https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

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     which one did i get wrong, faggot?

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     misterjesus (misterjesus@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 07:52:23 JST misterjesus

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     The other one.
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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 07:55:46 JST mk

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     @misterjesus

     ok..you're obviously to dump to have a conversation with.

     take the L.

     i'm muting this shitshow now.

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     misterjesus (misterjesus@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 07:55:47 JST misterjesus

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     Whichever one would bother you the most if you got it incorrect.
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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Sunday, 24-Sep-2023 16:08:19 JST mk

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     • misterjesus

     @misterjesus

     more evidence to proof my point.

     situation: leftist looney tried to weaponize her audience to cancel mean rightwing youtuber for hurting her feelings.
     https://youtu.be/_ssTnZPnv_w?t=213

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     conclusion:
     fuck banning. let the court of public opinion decide which one is more worthy of supporting.
     https://youtu.be/_ssTnZPnv_w?t=423

     @FortyTwo