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   🍵 holly (holly@social.v.st)'s status on Monday, 11-Sep-2023 21:34:50 JST 🍵 holly

   My partner has been getting bloody cuts from one of my pots.. and after a deep dive through the internet and my pots and pans drawer I've discovered that several premium brands of pots leave multi-ply edges un-welded. The result? After years of putting them in the dishwasher (which they claim to be rated for) the aluminum layer corrodes and recedes, leaving razor-sharp stainless edges sticking out. Here are some photos so you know what to look for when buying pots.

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     🍵 holly (holly@social.v.st)'s status on Monday, 11-Sep-2023 21:35:35 JST 🍵 holly

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     Boosts of this thread are welcome. I'd like to help others not waste money on expensive pots that cause lacerations, and also shame these companies for cutting corners in a way that injures their customers. Except Spring! Good job Spring for, uh, welding those corners, and making a quality pot!

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     🍵 holly (holly@social.v.st)'s status on Monday, 11-Sep-2023 21:35:37 JST 🍵 holly

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     So what brands do this? Well, All Clad had a class action lawsuit against them for this, but they aren’t the only offenders. My pots with this problem are by Demeyere, J.A. Henkels, and Mauviel. The one pot I have that was done right is by a Swiss company called Spring, and is in their Brigade Premium line.

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Sep-2023 05:37:05 JST feld

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     So many "premium cookware" brands are only "premium" in name and targeted towards the "look at me and my nice kitchen I never use" types of rich people who are ready to be swindled.
     
     Cast iron and stainless. Both are lifetime purchases.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Sep-2023 05:41:55 JST Sexy Moon

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     @holly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Market_for_Lemons
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Sep-2023 22:19:31 JST feld

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     you can easily make the cooking surface of a Lodge smooth as glass by seasoning it with flaxseed oil. Those pans look nice buy crazy expensive, and they didn't even add a lip/spout to the pan for pouring off excess liquids/grease ☹️
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     🍵 holly (holly@social.v.st)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Sep-2023 22:19:33 JST 🍵 holly

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     @feld These pots are stainless. Apparently you can make a bad stainless pot. You can also make a bad cast iron: Lodge for instance. They don’t bother to take the extra step of grinding the cooking surface smooth. I used to have one of these, which was much nicer: https://fieldcompany.com But I couldn’t move abroad with it. Which is fine because it turns out I like carbon steel much better. It’s like cast iron but featherweight.

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Sep-2023 22:28:47 JST feld

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     if you're that concerned about a smooth pan it's still $100 cheaper to buy the lodge and rent a drill and wire wheel brush from Home Depot for an hour to make it smooth
     
     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b35hX795Vkk
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     🍵 holly (holly@social.v.st)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Sep-2023 22:28:48 JST 🍵 holly

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     @feld Flax oil does not smooth pitted iron. You get a much more non-stick surface on a well-seasoned smooth pan than on a well-seasoned rough pan. I’ve used both Lodge and Field and the field is much better. Considering these pans last generations, to me going with the lodge is a false economy.

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Sep-2023 22:35:43 JST feld

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     This dude claims that the rough surface is important for the pan being able to hold the seasoning.
     
     He does a test: seasons two pans, one smooth and one pitted. Cooks, then cleans. The seasoning didn't adhere well to the smooth pan.
     
     "okay so let's take a look at how the seasoning performed.
     and on the smooth surface pan we can see little areas where the seasoning was lifted off"
     
     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFhRfbiLpJ8
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Sep-2023 22:46:12 JST feld

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     I literally fry eggs on mine like every morning and never had them stick lol
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     🍵 holly (holly@social.v.st)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Sep-2023 22:46:14 JST 🍵 holly

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     @feld I have used both pans, I have direct experience of being frustrated with eggs sticking to a Lodge pan, and the joy of them not sticking to a Field pan. But if you like a rough pan more, go for it.