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If you have a Liberty Safe, you better un-have it. The way I understand this, the FBI had a warrant for the customer, but did not subpoena the company for the code - it was given over willingly just by virtue of the warrant for their customer.
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They don't say that on their site. It's not even one of the solutions listed for a lockout.
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According to them, they keep a database of access codes to give to customers if they prove they own the safe. Or, in this case, the federal government lmao.
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@matty I was wondering how did Liberty have the access code? Is it an internet connected safe or do they have a master code?
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It’s p normal.. except the part about just handing things over without a court order.
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@matty lol That’s retarded. Anyone who bought a safe from gets what they deserve then.
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To search the property, which is different. It doesn’t actually matter tho, the FBI isn’t going to see a safe and be like “well, we don’t have the code so it’s over!” so there’s not much practical difference.
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@bot @matty If I remember correctly they did have a warrant in this case.
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They sort of did him a favour in a way since they didn’t have to destroy the safe to get in, which they would’ve done in either case.
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Is the master code specific to each safe, or is there like one code to rule them all?
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yes you still have to pay and go through a "licensed locksmith" if you get locked out even though they have this masterlist lol. they supposesly do keep a mastercode for almost all safes for reasons like family inheriting a safe without codes or children accidentally locked in, or in this case if feds ask politely
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> Please don't leave us, bro. We'll totally delete it. We really will. You have to trust us.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/liberty-safe-responds-to-backlash-as-anger-grows-over-giving-fbi-code/ar-AA1gniHp
>we promise to delete your file if you ask nicely
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If they demonstrated that each file was stored on its own device, which was then drilled through and tossed into a garbage compactor on request, I'd believe them.
Then again, buying a "gun safe" is like buying A10 wyagu beef from Walmart. Just buy a legitimate bank grade safe.
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@Red_Hat @Humpleupagus @matty I’d get one with an analog combo lock.