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   Larry Garfield (crell@phpc.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Sep-2023 01:49:29 JST Larry Garfield

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   • Yeshaya Lazarevich

   @alter_kaker @noracodes In his defense, almost all of that is tropes in European and Norse lore going back 1500-2000 years at least. Tolkien went the noble route with it, the fascists went a less-noble route with it.

   The tropes themselves may not be the best in modern eyes, but they're not intrinsically fascist. Not anymore than Thor's hammer is, despite the fash adopting it. (No, the fash may not have Aragorn. NO!)

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     Yeshaya Lazarevich (alter_kaker@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Sep-2023 01:49:31 JST Yeshaya Lazarevich

     @noracodes
     Thanks 😊 luckily I no longer sound like Tolkien in daily speech 😅

     I think that even beyond the racist language, what really makes Tolkien's stuff so appealing to fascists is the repeated theme of a golden age of past purity vs present degeneration, heroes that represent the true lineage in a struggle against corruption and fall. He introduces some complexity so it's not completely cut and dried but that's still the central theme of pretty much all of it and it fits fash ideology ☹️