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   on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Friday, 01-Sep-2023 07:09:34 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
   Is the software used in tazers libre? What about the software the NSA uses to spy on people? New frontiers for the FSF.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 01-Sep-2023 07:10:58 JST Sexy Moon

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     @lain They legitimately should go after proprietary software that puts people in jail without being able to question it, like breathalyzer software.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 01-Sep-2023 07:11:51 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @lain Wouldn't be surprised to learn that the robocop dogs run on linux.
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     Another Linux Walt Alt (lnxw37b2@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 01-Sep-2023 07:24:00 JST Another Linux Walt Alt

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     @lain I think the difference is that people are forced to install and use tax software. Whether the NSA uses "freeSPY+", or "proprietarySPY" won't affect most people.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 01-Sep-2023 16:59:27 JST 翠星石

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     @lain >What about the software the NSA uses to spy on people?
     They most likely wrote their spying software themselves and/or paid an outside contractor to develop part of it, but hand over the copyright and the source code - if that's the case, then such software is free.
     
     If such software is free, it respects the NSA's freedom, but nobody else gets any freedom, as the NSA uses that software to attack the citizens of the USA and most countries on earth.
     
     Such topics are really out of scope of the aims of the FSF, but they do point out bad things that the NSA does on gnu.org, but not to the point that scope creep ruins everything.
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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Sep-2023 18:56:25 JST kaia

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     @lain a taser is an appliance, so RMS is okay with people getting tasered with proprietary software as long as one cannot change it.
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Friday, 01-Sep-2023 18:57:38 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @kaia freedom preserved once again
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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Sep-2023 18:59:14 JST kaia

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     @lain (just talking out of my butt, but the FSF jihadists will rectify my response)
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