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   dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 07:46:28 JST dicey
   I think a big percentage of Spanish people have lost ancestors in civil war. The franco regime just picked union lists and people who was listed as working for workers rights and eliminated them after war. Also single mothers was put in internment camps and their child was taken into good families as being a single mom was considered immoral. Rape of women was accepted as a weapon of war by franco regime. They said "they believe in sexual freedom, we are going to teach them what sexual freedom means". People were converted into subjects to dominate in a corrupt catholic hierarchy. The republic wasn't perfect but the dictatorship was though. Even on my Spanish grandmother's side my ancestors was killed due to being listed in political opposition. If a woman was considered rebellious they gave her some sort of laxative shaved her head and made her go trough the village naked. I don't understand that people can have sympathy for the Franco dictatorship personally.
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     dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 07:46:15 JST dicey

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     This video may give a closer look at the people during poorer times
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     Leaf Lord (leaflord@leafposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 07:46:15 JST Leaf Lord

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     Why would anyone want to look at poors?
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     Kek Marie Kerel (kekkerel@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 07:46:17 JST Kek Marie Kerel

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     @dicey Only remotely Spanish thing I can think of. Take as peace offering.
     
     Ren wants me to learn Spanish. I'm considering it.
     
     I would normally upload this directly but my connection is in a superposed state, but only for uploads--
     
     https://youtu.be/TzuDgdgH7CM?si=BglW6WGhY7QnoKla
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     Kek Marie Kerel (kekkerel@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 07:46:18 JST Kek Marie Kerel

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     @dicey Excuse me for making you upset.
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     dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 07:46:18 JST dicey

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     just sensitive issues that should have been forgotten long ago
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     Kek Marie Kerel (kekkerel@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 07:46:19 JST Kek Marie Kerel

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     @dicey I like you Dicey.
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     dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 07:46:19 JST dicey

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     I like you too.
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     dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 07:46:20 JST dicey

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     Well I don't give love to any God figure that Franco tells me to obey and will live my life without anyone trying to kill me for that hopefully 🙏
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     dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 07:46:22 JST dicey

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     • Kek Marie Kerel
     everyone in Spain lived in fear. That's what little men do. Dominate their people trough fear. Or are your opinion that this a good quality?
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     Kek Marie Kerel (kekkerel@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 07:46:22 JST Kek Marie Kerel

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     I'm of the opinion that people are necessarily corrected and governed by the terror of violence when they do not give love to God.
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     dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 07:46:23 JST dicey

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     this has nothing with communists but common people being treated as children by a catholic facist father figure with nothing but contempt for them and brainwashing population to become their worst own enemy. Stalin was worse than Franco. But Franco was a sadist with sadistic policies that everyone in Spain who suffered them by ancestors know about. That's about half the population. He was a little little man trying to impose what small men do, authority
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     Kek Marie Kerel (kekkerel@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 07:46:23 JST Kek Marie Kerel

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     That's just impotent rage though. Didn't he die of old age? That's pretty good for a "small" man considering the number of enemies he made.
     
     They must have been very afraid of that small man.
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     dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 07:46:24 JST dicey

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     • Kek Marie Kerel
     I'm not going to discuss if Franco was good for Spain he clearly wasn't. It's known both sides committed atrocities during conflict. But I'm talking about life under Franco which is the horrific period I referred too here
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     Kek Marie Kerel (kekkerel@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 07:46:24 JST Kek Marie Kerel

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     @dicey No different from Stalin then, is what you're saying. A lot of dead communists and a strong man in charge?
     
     Sulla came out on top in the Social War. I don't know what else to say. Reckless and absolute disregard for moral authority will, as a best case scenario, result in being squashed beneath the foot of a tyrant.
     
     Worst case scenario looks more like what the Romans did with the Carthaginians when they didn't find a living human being younger than 17 in the city.
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     dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 07:46:25 JST dicey

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     This isn't communists but historians that have documented this by the Franco regimes own documents. Many of these historians are to the right. It's history. I know because my family on my grandma's side suffered greatly
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     Kek Marie Kerel (kekkerel@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 07:46:25 JST Kek Marie Kerel

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     @dicey What about nuns raped and priests executed? What about outrages against rural folk trying to lives their lives?
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     Kek Marie Kerel (kekkerel@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 07:46:26 JST Kek Marie Kerel

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     I just don't trust communists to speak the truth about what happened to them or why it was done.
     
     I have very good reason to hold this perspective.
     
     All sorts of lefties lie from the moment they wake to the moment they rest. I can't trust anything they say.
     
     Considering what I *know* about what the communists did to Catholics during the war, I have an absence of pity for them.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 07:54:36 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     I don’t think most ppl understand the horrific things that happen during conflict, they mostly view it was entertainment in terms of their political ideology. Unless they’re sent into conflict themselves.