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   on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:29:54 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
   A very good article on 'realistic prepper advice', a bit long.
   
   https://anarchonomicon.substack.com/p/realistic-prepper-advice
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     Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:36:52 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹

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     Some people prefer to fight it out. :shrugz:

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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:36:52 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @thendrix the article talks about that too, and tells people that 'fight it out' might mean living for all their live under an oppressive system like the USSR
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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:41:49 JST mk

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     yeah whatever.

     i prefer a lighter and a knife over some paper ;-)

     youtu.be/GUCU22DismM?t=1611

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     ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 00:50:18 JST ロミンちゃん

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     @lain and enough money for a charter flight.
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 01:38:55 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @grillchen @thendrix th point of the article it is that preppers tend to prepare for a short fight against random bands of aggressors, like a zombie apocalypse scenario, and that it's better to prepare for a violently aggressive government that has vastly more resources than you.
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     grillchen (grillchen@brotka.st)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 01:38:56 JST grillchen

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     @lain @thendrix also sometimes fighting just means dying. it might be more impactful to keep the fight going in exile. but it is of course nice to have an option.
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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 02:03:13 JST kaia

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     @lain most preppers haven't tried living a week from their canned dog food to realize their 3-year's worth of cans is killing them within a few months.
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     grillchen (grillchen@brotka.st)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 02:05:12 JST grillchen

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     @kaia @lain vegan prepper i watched had books and games. though he even had stuff to share with others. most prepper hate people im afraid
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     bartholin (bartholin@fops.cloud)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 02:11:01 JST bartholin

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     @kaia @lain You buy bad food for "preparing", I buy bad food and eat it instantly, we are not the same
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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 02:23:47 JST mk

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     "This is why in most circumstances getting out should be done early as possible, best case you’d establish some right of residency in a second country well in advance"

     should people in #communist #canada prepare to leave right now?

     https://peertube.satoshishop.de/w/qBQVtoWu4ednpxWRm3dM9u

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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 02:59:06 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @grillchen @kaia you've internalized this hateful mindset so much it's really getting to me
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     Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 03:26:18 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹

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     vegans?

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     Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 03:26:29 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹

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     Trust me you can live off even expired food if that’s all you got. Having to eat the same thing everyday isn’t a problem if the alternative is nothing. It can and will get far worse living in a war zone.

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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 03:45:30 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @lebronjames75 @kaia you can survive without burgers?
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     l (lebronjames75@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 03:45:32 JST l

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     @kaia @lain people should ask ME. a hobby-specialist in this kinda stuff
     
     a person needs ~~3 snickers a day for motivation if all days are hard physically, 2 if they are moderate, 1 if they are full rest a day.
     thats ~~~<900 snickers a year per person
     one snickers is roughly 55g
     
     so per person you need to hoard ~~<50 kilograms of snickers (equivalents are fine too, such as muesli bars, bounty, mars, milky way, skittles, sour candy, etc etc etc) a year per person
     
     so a four person family, in a 2 year shelter, would require something like 400kg of snickers [equivalents, cookies, all ok]
     
     next up, GRAINS
     going safe, 150kg of grain per person per year, and it better be grain you actually eat day to day. so prolly like 80+-kg wheat (includes pastas), 30 kg rice, 30kg oats, 10kg "other" grains would be my setup, so thats 1200 kg of various grains for 4 people 2 years. "Other" could be pre-mixed pancake mixed, etc etc.
     
     how much travel? MREs one per person per estimated day of big travels a year. Estimate 2 MREs a week is usage(random low-end asspulled number)
     ~~110 MREs total
     
     various room-temp OK spreads (peanut butter, chocolate spread), one jar a month? 24 jars
     
     probably something like 5-7 liters of cooking oil per person, so 40 liters total
     
     so thats
     40 liters oil
     1200kg grains
     400kg snickers
     110 MREs (81kg)
     so thats like 1750kg of foodstuff that needs to be changed every 2-3 years to stay at good prep at all times
     
     say the average foodstuff costs totals to 10€/kg (haha) then thats 17500€ / 3 years = ~~6000€ a year expenditure to keep a fresh prep supply ready at all times
     
     assuming the prepper family eats half of that properly and food doesnt get wasted, ~~50% of that expenditure is saved yearly into normal food costs
     
     stopping this post now
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     l (lebronjames75@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 03:49:24 JST l

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     @lain @kaia no, this is the minimum base-calculation for the average person, not me
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     grillchen (grillchen@brotka.st)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 05:18:10 JST grillchen

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     @thendrix @kaia @lain gleason is making militant vegans look bad
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     uoh (uoh@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 06:24:59 JST uoh

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     @lain good read thanks for sharing
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     「セル」cell (سل) (cell@pl.ebin.zone)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 17:39:19 JST 「セル」cell (سل)

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     @lain good article, though it's tinged with the author's personal worldview/experience
     
     prepper behavior here is usually associated with older generation; they're the ones who've seen social upheaval, but at the same time their sacrifices allowed current generation to enjoy new levels of wealth and prosperity...
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     Lelouche ? (lelouchebag@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 18:50:12 JST Lelouche ?

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     @lain is germany an oppressive state at the moment?
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 19:42:10 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @lelouchebag depends on what you mean by that. most people living in germany don't especially think so.
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 19:49:08 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @grillchen @lelouchebag i don't think the question was about the legitimacy of states, but whether people feel oppressed in germany. I don't think many do.
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     grillchen (grillchen@brotka.st)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 19:49:10 JST grillchen

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     @lain @lelouchebag is any state not oppressive lain?
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:02:51 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @lain people.... Don't have passports?
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:06:27 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @hj if you never travel outside the country, you don't need one.
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     「セル」cell (سل) (cell@pl.ebin.zone)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:06:49 JST 「セル」cell (سل)

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     @hj @lain i can count a few here in sg who have expired ones, and many in id who don’t.
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:06:49 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @cell @lain what the fug, I mean I get it if it's expired, or in case of NK and RF only having internal passport, but how do you not have one? What, you just go by with your birth certificate until its time to get death one?
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:08:07 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @lain you need one to get a job, go to college, get drivers license etc, no?
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:09:07 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @hj no, generally not
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:09:54 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @cell @lain yeah to get drivers license you need a passport, no?
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     「セル」cell (سل) (cell@pl.ebin.zone)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:09:55 JST 「セル」cell (سل)

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     @hj @lain in some countries driver’s license is a commonly accepted and used ID (e.g. in america where they don’t have national ID), and i know someone there who traveled domestically using birth certificate
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:11:26 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @lain so I can get several drivers licenses by posing a totally different person? That's retarded. I had problems opening bank account because my passport expired.
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:12:07 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @cell @lain :ARUTired:
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     「セル」cell (سل) (cell@pl.ebin.zone)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:12:08 JST 「セル」cell (سل)

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     @hj @lain err, in my own country, no
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     「セル」cell (سل) (cell@pl.ebin.zone)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:14:05 JST 「セル」cell (سل)

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     @hj @lain most countries have national ID, which is credit card sized.
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:14:05 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @cell @lain I have national id in Finland but it doesn't mean I have citizenship, and otherwise passport is the id
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:17:58 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @sandycorzeta @lain @cell nothing is free to renew...
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     ?? sandy ? (sandycorzeta@misskey.id)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:18:00 JST ?? sandy ?

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     @cell@pl.ebin.zone @hj@shigusegubu.club @lain@lain.com yeah, since national ID is free to renew and driver license/passport are not. *terrible and stupid take lmao

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     「セル」cell (سل) (cell@pl.ebin.zone)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 20:28:12 JST 「セル」cell (سل)

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     @hj @lain oh! you mean in sg? well the sg wörk/student/long term ID serves the dual purpose of proving your identity and your right to live here, which is more important than passport for most purposes. hard to forge anyway when they can be quickly and easily verified against a central database (i realize this doesn’t work for most countries)
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     @cell @lain residence permit is separate from id here, social security is a separate card but it's the same number as id. In USSR/RF it's all in the (internal) passport, apart from mandatory medial insurance which is a separate card i guess. External passport is pretty much same as internal afaik, just recognized by other countries.
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     eal (eal@post.ebin.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 22:50:08 JST eal

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     @moth_ball @lain @hj driver's license works where it matters: when buying funny water from alko
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     mothball蛾玉 (?summer boy?) (moth_ball@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 22:50:09 JST mothball蛾玉 (?summer boy?)

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     @hj @lain They're talking about henkilökortti, it's a card used as identification. You can order one from the boliisi the same way you'd order a passport. It's passport-level ID unlike driver's l0isence which can't be used as ID in some cases.
     
     t. bureucracy pro
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     @moth_ball @lain @eal @hj meanwhile in tallinn alko:
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     @eal @lain @hj @moth_ball annoyed look at self-checkout counter also works here on the sg
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     @cell @lain @eal @hj Here it's written in law that the staff should check from anyone who looks under 30, but as it's a very subjective matter, a beard will spare you the check most of the time. Except in Alko, they are ruthless hawks the lot of them.
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     @moth_ball @lain @cell @eal
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     @cell @lain @eal @hj bls nüüd :---D
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     「セル」cell (سل) (cell@pl.ebin.zone)'s status on Thursday, 24-Aug-2023 23:09:12 JST 「セル」cell (سل)

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     @hj @lain @eal @moth_ball back to the topic at hand
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     Toxic Darkest Sinner (galena@paws.moe)'s status on Friday, 25-Aug-2023 00:51:10 JST Toxic Darkest Sinner

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     @hj @lain You generally need proof of residence and some other form of ID - like your birth certificate - to get a driver's license. In the US and Canada most people just use their driver's license for everything, because it's much less common to travel out of country than it would be in Europe. The average American never needs a passport.
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