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   feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 22:54:15 JST feld

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   • Dan (phrawzty)
   • Miah Johnson
   • Pete Wright
   Bitwarden just announced their competitor:
   
   https://bitwarden.com/products/secrets-manager/
   
   The code for it is still open source, directly integrated into the existing password vault codebase
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     Pete Wright (pete_wright@nlogic.systems)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 22:54:17 JST Pete Wright

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     • Dan (phrawzty)
     • Miah Johnson
     @phrawzty @miah honestly - vault is a piece of software that could arguably have a price associated with it. It’s usually the most critical piece of software which contains your companies secrets, and it wouldn’t be hard to argue that paying for it would help ensure it survives and gets funded to stay secure.
     
     It makes no sense imho what they did with TF, it’s just a templating engine and API wrapper…keep that and packer open to keep good will and the community happy. Then explain you need to fund vault, consul and nomad. Those servers need full time paid engineers to keep them safe and reliable.
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     Miah Johnson (miah@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 22:54:19 JST Miah Johnson

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     • Dan (phrawzty)

     @phrawzty I agree, I don't think the opentf team should wait for Hasicorp to respond. They should fork and move on. But I'm not involved in the org so my thoughts don't really matter. I just want to use and work with actually open source software, and it's communities.

     Similarly, I have work to get done that would really benefit from a tool like Vault but I won't get involved with Hasicorp at this point. I don't have the skill set to maintain a Vault fork and nobody is talking about forking it.

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     Dan (phrawzty) (phrawzty@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 22:54:21 JST Dan (phrawzty)

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     • Miah Johnson

     @miah I don't see any particular reason for HC to walk this back, tbqh. The fork will either be "successful" in which case it becomes an entirely different product over time, or it won't, in which case it fades away. Neither case requires HC to alter their course. 🤷

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     Miah Johnson (miah@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 22:54:22 JST Miah Johnson

     Has the #opentf / #teraform folks heard back from Hasicorp yet? Where is #openvault? Are we over the BUSL BS?