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   Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 00:19:48 JST Dushman

   • mdn

   @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club
   youtube-dl is deprecated anyway. Use yt-dlp.
   https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp

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     ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 00:19:38 JST ロミンちゃん

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     • maksim :fire:
     @mangeurdenuage @dushman @maksim why would you want to run tor on an already compromised computer?
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     mdn (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 00:19:39 JST mdn

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     @dushman @maksim What will you do when your MIT/BSD licensed AI integrated intel/amd CPU doesn't allow you to download or execute tor ?
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     Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 00:19:40 JST Dushman

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     @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club @maksim@mk.wherelinux.xyz
     You can always host a git repo on tor also

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     mdn (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 00:19:41 JST mdn

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     @dushman @maksim
     >they can't do shit no matter how many lawyers they pay
     Never underestimate an enemy who has unlimited funds, these people have already implemented DRM to the hardware, even for a freaking sensor they add that crap and will only go worse.
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     • maksim :fire:

     @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club @maksim@mk.wherelinux.xyz
     Thousands of people have the code. I would not worry.

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     Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 00:19:42 JST Dushman

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     @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club @maksim@mk.wherelinux.xyz
     It's open source software and it's out there so by now they can't do shit no matter how many lawyers they pay

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     mdn (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 00:19:43 JST mdn

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     @maksim @dushman
     >ren't there countries which don't have those dumb restrictions?
     -Depends on the international agreement between countries.
     -What is legal today might not be tomorrow.
     
     >Stallman himself said that such countries are nice and urged people from there to reverse engineer things
     Again laws change, and there isn't much people who are truly competent, or don't give a dam for such task, do you know a zoomer who doesn't use netflix or any proprietary streaming SaaS ?
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     maksim :fire: (maksim@mk.wherelinux.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 00:19:44 JST maksim :fire:

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     @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club @dushman@den.raccoon.quest aren't there countries which don't have those dumb restrictions? I mean I am myself in Ukraine and I doubt anyone there would care about freaking DRM circumvention and DMCA, not even sure if there are laws against it here, can't devs just make it look like they are from such a country? Stallman himself said that such countries are nice and urged people from there to reverse engineer things

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     mdn (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 00:19:45 JST mdn

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     @maksim @dushman
     >DMCA
     The digital millennium copyright act does take into account DRM circumvention technology as not legal. Meaning that for example you can't legally circumvent DVD protection to make a copy of it even if it for yourself.
     As long as courts will apply this madness it can only go bad.
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     maksim :fire: (maksim@mk.wherelinux.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 00:19:46 JST maksim :fire:

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     @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club @dushman@den.raccoon.quest youtube-dl isn't even subject to DMCA as it's not stolen content, it's just code written following all the license guidelines, I dunno why the devs decided to quit it

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     mdn (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 00:19:47 JST mdn

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     @dushman I know, that is not the issue, the issue is the DMCA, this is not circumvention technology, the moment courts will have multiple valid reasons to enforce this that means that any free/libre software will have to mandate the implementation of anykind of DRM to be even able to load a website.
     
     Such validation just reinforces all digital restrictions management positions, you don't have a smartphone to load this website ? too bad for you, you don't use google chrome to read this video, too bad for you, you don't have a webcam and microphone to view this website ? too bad for you. Don't have the official brand keyboard to load this website ? too bad for you.
     DRM will destroy the tech world and revert it to minitel era but even worse.
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     Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 00:24:21 JST Dushman

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     • maksim :fire:

     @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club @maksim@mk.wherelinux.xyz @romin@shitposter.club
     There are definitely alternatives that don't have this bullshit like IBM's Power chips or RISC V

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     Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 00:24:22 JST Dushman

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     @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club @maksim@mk.wherelinux.xyz
     Though I wouldn't necessarily worry about that either.

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     Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 00:24:23 JST Dushman

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     @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club @maksim@mk.wherelinux.xyz
     At that point I'd become a hermit and live in a cave in some remote mountain range

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     Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 00:25:36 JST Dushman

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     @maksim@mk.wherelinux.xyz @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club
     Also on the topic of DRM, I love how piracy gives you the better product (no DRM so you can whatever the fuck you want) for a better price (free).

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     maksim :fire: (maksim@mk.wherelinux.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 00:25:37 JST maksim :fire:

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     @dushman@den.raccoon.quest @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club

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     Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 00:25:38 JST Dushman

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     • maksim :fire:

     @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club @maksim@mk.wherelinux.xyz
     Just warning you guys about this terrible website

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     Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 00:25:39 JST Dushman

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     @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club @maksim@mk.wherelinux.xyz
     Definitely don't download those decryption keys that would violate copyright law :gnutroll:

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     Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 00:25:40 JST Dushman

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     @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club @maksim@mk.wherelinux.xyz
     On the topic of Blu Ray and DVD dics
     https://vlc-bluray.whoknowsmy.name/
     :gnutroll:

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     mdn (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 17:38:50 JST mdn

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     @dushman @maksim
     Again, don't underestimate these people.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 17:46:06 JST 翠星石

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     @dushman >Definitely don't download those decryption keys that would violate copyright law
     Actually, I don't believe decryption keys even qualify for copyright law, as such is really non-creative information in a set format.
     
     The collection of keys as a whole may qualify for copyright and I don't see a license on the collection, but as the collection is publicly available, downloading it is authorized, but sharing the collection further may not be.
     
     The law that you may infringe by downloading the keys and shattering digital handcuffs is the DMCA (they call it the "copyright act", but it's really something completely different).
     
     You might want to also download prebuilt BD+ tables - as although libdbplus can run the proprietary software from the bluray to uncorrupt the video and audio, you don't want to do that.
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     mdn (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 17:47:40 JST mdn

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     @dushman @maksim
     Sometimes I wonder if I'm just autistic to be able to foresee such negative usage over people or if it's people who just can't. Idk, it's frustrating that most don't remember what already happened, people said that the dystopia that we're in today was "far too fetched" and it keeps repeating itself over and over thus getting worse and people keep saying "seems a bit too far fetched".
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     Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 17:47:41 JST Dushman

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     @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club @maksim@mk.wherelinux.xyz
     seems a bit too far fetched imho