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   myrmepropagandist (futurebird@sauropods.win)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Aug-2023 20:27:02 JST myrmepropagandist

   If the idea of violent protests don't make you at least little scared I wonder how well you know history. At the same time, real change almost never happens without people putting their bodies on the line.

   The right understands this far better than your average liberal/moderate. To be a moderate is to trust that existing systems will (mostly) work.

   If those system fail? What then? To even consider this is moderate treason.

   (Cartoons by Mattie Lubchansky https://thenib.com/author/mattie-lubchansky/ )

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     Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺 (ned@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Aug-2023 20:27:00 JST Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺

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     @futurebird "the right" don't understand this at all.

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     myrmepropagandist (futurebird@sauropods.win)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Aug-2023 20:51:36 JST myrmepropagandist

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     It's *not* a good thing that one side has all the guns.

     I saw a photo a few days ago. I think it was titled. "Vermont politics" -- in it a scruffy cheerful white man held a gun and a sign. The sign said something like "Respect my trans daughter and my right to bear arms!" (did anyone else see this?)

     Some people were annoyed at the guy for being so into guns. I could only think how glad I was for his daughter that he had one.

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     prom™️ (promovicz@chaos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Aug-2023 20:52:11 JST prom™️

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     @futurebird Imagine living in a society where everyone is unarmed - except for Nazis who illegally hoard guns, grenades and body bags. This is normal in Europe - and the violence is so far outside moderate people's experience that they do not necessarily grasp its seriousness.

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     Pete Alex Harris🦡🕸️🌲/∞🪐∫ (petealexharris@mastodon.scot)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 09:28:51 JST Pete Alex Harris🦡🕸️🌲/∞🪐∫

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     The French revolution ended badly for a lot of people, but it's hard to make the case that keeping the French aristocracy and absolute monarchy in place would have gone well for the vast majority of the population.

     *The status quo was already violent*

     You can't only look at the violence of change and ignore the violence of denying change.

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     your_huckleberry (your_huckleberry@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 09:28:54 JST your_huckleberry

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     @futurebird Wasn't MLK all about non-violent protest, which changed the world in a good way? Weren't the the other violent revolutions really bad for lots of people? I seem to remember the French revolution ending badly for all involved. Maybe I'm missing the joke.

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