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   opal hart (opal@ap.maladaptive.art)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 04:39:07 JST opal hart
   every day we stray further from good search results
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 04:39:05 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @opal thats why i keep using google. tried bing, brave search, CCG: hard to find stuff i truly needed.
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     opal hart (opal@ap.maladaptive.art)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 04:43:02 JST opal hart

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     @MischievousTomato i use tor for web browsing and google's been blocking that for years now. ddg worked for a while but then their onion stopped being reliable and their search results have gotten worse, even google's results are worse. been running a searx instance at home for a while but i havent updated in a while and now i just get ddg's shitty results from searx
     
     end goal is just to have specific search engines because i generally know what domain-specific searches i want, i trust seo way less now, everything's just manipulated to hell and back
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     opal hart (opal@ap.maladaptive.art)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 04:43:06 JST opal hart

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     @MischievousTomato youll see real quick that im just tired of everything and feel the need to fix it all and fast before i shoot a nailgun through my ear
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 04:44:03 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @opal tell me about it. i've spent shitload of time distrohopping the last month because every single distro annoyed me in different ways. settled for now.
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 04:44:37 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @opal google is still useful for me but i dont use it anymore for img searching, i use yandex for that (much much much better).
     the searx thing, damn. that's terrible.
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 04:53:11 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @opal
     - fedora: more or less nice, just werks, but i have to use flatpaks eventually, and flatpaks fucking suck sooner or later in different ways.
     
     -opensusan: dealing with vendor changes and wondering if what i did is fine/supposed to be done, little documentation/stuff online.
     
     -debian unstable: would work, but many packages are still old as shit. firmware? from fucking aug of 2021. need it up to date for i915.enable_guc (this thus also applies to distros based on debian).
     
     -nixOS: nice concept, i like it, but it being so special means that using stuff precompiled is hard, and will more often than not require special handling. and some stuff is plain broken or doesnt work right.
     
     - gentoo: compiling is slow, and having to deal with circular dependencies makes me want to slice my wrists, pull out my veins, and hang myself with them.
     
     and that brings me to arch. it's ok, but what annoys me of it is that there's no way to automatically install optional packages. So, if a package i need has like a lot of deps (like wine) i need to stare at text, highlight, then press the middle mouse button to paste it to then install such things. I'm working on fixing that for myself though.
     And it also has its pros: writing PKGBUILDS is easy, no need for esoteric knowledge or wondering that stuff does on rpm.spec files (%cmake? WHAT DOES IT DO, WILL IT DO WHAT I NEED I DONT KNOW).
     
     I might sound very retarded, and my issues arent that complex, but I want to easily be able to get packages on my system, and if they arent available i want to easily make a package for them. I also want to avoid flatpak for the time being due to it just not being ready yet. (i hope it will someone day be, but until that day comes, arch is the best option for me).
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     opal hart (opal@ap.maladaptive.art)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 04:53:13 JST opal hart

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     @MischievousTomato wondering your experiences with each, i settled with a mix of alpine and gentoo across systems for a while
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     opal hart (opal@ap.maladaptive.art)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 04:53:14 JST opal hart

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     @MischievousTomato yandex images is great especially for 3dpd lol
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 04:53:27 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @opal 3dpd, exam cheating, anime, hentai, doujins, every-fucking-thing
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     opal hart (opal@ap.maladaptive.art)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 05:16:25 JST opal hart

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     @MischievousTomato
     >i mention gore in the gentoo part.
     i'm into guro you're fine lol
     >fedora
     never used, no opinion, i hear rpm sucks. flatpaks suck regardless of distro, if i had to use them at all i'd can it immediately
     >suse
     never used but yeah sounds like a smaller community
     >debian
     apt's ass, package releng is ass
     >nixos
     we use this for work a bit and its cool but yeah for binaries it sucks
     >gentoo
     portage does anything i throw at it and if its slow i just let it run in the background. throwing more cores at it works. distcc/ccache worth looking into if you have the resources. it's great for homogeneous server farms because you can do your own releng but even for varied systems it's nice to have a common base config i can share across them
     >arch
     systemd broke on both my vpses and instead of learning systemd i just ditched arch entirely. other than that, arch seems like a "mediocre" distro, close to upstream for packages, pacman "works"
     
     since gcompat exists, i can even recommend alpine for people who still have glibc-dependent shit around. i haven't tested gcompat in depth but i want to switch my desktop over to musl+gcompat and see how it fares
     
     >writing PKGBUILDS is easy
     i have that experience with ebuilds, moreso because overlays are integrated well, instead of the whole aur gatekeeping you from deferring away from official repos. that design choice is bullshit, idk why arch did that
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 05:17:42 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @opal ! hm. i wonder if i should try gentoo again. I'm on a faster laptop that doesn't throttle stupidly. (fuck u amd)
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 05:32:48 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @opal ;_; lucky, i only have my laptop. i might look into repartitioning my laptop to have a gentoo partition and then chroot on my current system and then replace until its done. we'll see
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     opal hart (opal@ap.maladaptive.art)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 05:32:49 JST opal hart

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     @MischievousTomato i use gentoo on my x200 but i never build on there, i have distcc set up against my desktop and my homeserver, so it just does minimal work by itself
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     opal hart (opal@ap.maladaptive.art)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 05:32:51 JST opal hart

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     @MischievousTomato might wanna try a binary-based gentoo distro on a laptop https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Distributions_based_on_Gentoo
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     opal hart (opal@ap.maladaptive.art)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 05:33:03 JST opal hart

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     @MischievousTomato aside from all that ive used proxmox (debian-based hypervisor), openwrt (still have it for now on network equipment), started out with ubuntu 8 i think as a kid, used crunchbang (debian+openbox), centos briefly, uh i think thats it. i dont distro hop but i change around when stuff stops suiting me
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     opal hart (opal@ap.maladaptive.art)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 05:33:04 JST opal hart

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     @MischievousTomato
     >circular deps
     never had this issue except for a few packages where the preinst will actually warn you about this. youre probably thinking of its dependency resolution in general which can be a bitch. i do partial upgrades on systems all the time and by now i'm just used to the language portage speaks. could def be smarter but meh i've never had a gentoo system irreparably break on me
     
     meanwhile ive bricked debian before where apt refuses to do anything
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 05:33:42 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @opal nice, I started with ubuntu 12 on my first laptop ever. never got to only use linux until i got my ryzen laptop (which i later gave to my sister) in 2020.
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 05:34:20 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @opal i've heard of apt/dpkg being very eager to kill everything.
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 05:34:30 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @opal > im into guro
     wew
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     rdr :5head2: (rdr@marsey.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 05:36:34 JST rdr :5head2:

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     @MischievousTomato @opal gentoo
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     opal hart (opal@ap.maladaptive.art)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 05:37:00 JST opal hart

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     @MischievousTomato i'm getting into drawing so i can make cute girls both with and without their bodies fully intact
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 05:37:07 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @opal a bit of ryona is fine but i prefer my girls alive D:
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     opal hart (opal@ap.maladaptive.art)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 06:05:16 JST opal hart

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     @MischievousTomato yeah that pairing is out for blood
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     opal hart (opal@ap.maladaptive.art)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 06:05:21 JST opal hart

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     @rdr @MischievousTomato
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     opal hart (opal@ap.maladaptive.art)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 06:05:24 JST opal hart

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     @MischievousTomato yeah ryona's the only thing i can't stand
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 06:05:25 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @opal oh
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 06:06:13 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @opal :chocola_wha: thats extreme. drowning/choking is fine.
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     opal hart (opal@ap.maladaptive.art)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 06:06:15 JST opal hart

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     @MischievousTomato i'm mostly into death (suicide/homicide/drowning/implied) and like internal organ shit, i hate ryona. used to browse gurochan /freakshow/ too lol i still have some pics related to that
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 06:20:08 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @opal ;-; gentoo would take.too much time
     am fine with arch
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     rdr :5head2: (rdr@marsey.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 06:48:09 JST rdr :5head2:

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     @opal @MischievousTomato genteuse
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     opal hart (opal@ap.maladaptive.art)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 06:48:15 JST opal hart

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     @MischievousTomato whatever youre happy with, long as i dont have to use it :^)
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 06:48:16 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @opal kek
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 06:55:39 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @opal they are not all good and WE have to make them good.
     i hope i get the energy to work on my auto-optdepends installer pacman wrapper script
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     opal hart (opal@ap.maladaptive.art)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 06:55:40 JST opal hart

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     @MischievousTomato well i mean its true, i hate distro wars, they are all bad
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     opal hart (opal@ap.maladaptive.art)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 07:01:16 JST opal hart

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     @MischievousTomato linux sucks lol
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 07:01:48 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @opal i hate it when it decides to crap out. atm it hasnt yet.
     still enjoyable compared to windows tbqh