@monsterislandcolonizer Allow me to introduce you to seitan, prepared with traditional cooking methods since at least the 6th century. You start by making bread and then wash the dough until all the starch is gone. What you end up with is a high protein meat replacement that tastes like the fluffy and delicious inside of bread. That's what you see in the photo. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seitan
@monsterislandcolonizer Actually, we're both right. You replied to my post from 2021, and I just saw I had said it was "Impossible Beef", which is exactly what you describe. 🤣
@alex My wife bought me an "impossible sausage" biscuit once not knowing what it was. It def tasted odd, but not bad at all. I didn't find out until the next time she went out for breakfast and asked me which kind of sausage biscuit I wanted. I said "what do you mean 'what kind'?" That's how I found out she got me the vegan patty last time -_- She had no idea what it was
@monsterislandcolonizer I have never felt good after eating an Impossible Anything. I can't say I ever felt particularly healthy or fit after eating a hamburger either, though.
@monsterislandcolonizer There is a way, I guarantee. But you have to want to do it. Most people have no reason. For me it's a philosophical issue. I think in a century human beings will look back on factory farming with shame.
@alex I look on factory farming with shame NOW We're changing our schedules so that we can go to the local farmers market for our grocery shopping. There's a farm in the area (several actually) that do free-range everything.
@alex My wife bought chicken breasts from a farm in the area last week and they looked and tasted completely different than the normal store-brand meat. Color, texture, everything. There's no way that cultivating misery and then feeding it to people is healthy.
@monsterislandcolonizer It's not possible that humans can eat meat at the same rate we are and also end factory farming. Meat consumption has to decrease for that to be possible. It used to be considered a delicacy.
@alex I would be open to the idea of eating more fruits and vegetables and less meat but I'm not eating the motor oil patties.
I also think we're at a population bottleneck and in 100 years there will be a lot fewer people. There's also a lot of unused area that could be repurposed into food production. I imagine if half the people in my neighborhood grew some crop or livestock in their backyard we could produce a lot of food ourselves.
@monsterislandcolonizer > imagine if half the people in my neighborhood grew some crop or livestock in their backyard we could produce a lot of food ourselves.
This is exactly what the HOA doesn't want you to do for some reason.
@feld@alex Africa's population growth is fueled by subsidies from Western countries which will soon be unable to continue supporting them. African growth will crash when the food imports stop.
China imports food stuffs so they won't share any with African. A china man can walk through a village of starving children and not feel a thing afterall
> “China sees this opportunity and has therefore stepped up to provide the needed support,” Frimpong said. “This will certainly create food security for China, but also for the continent.
Not happening, it's too important to their food security plans. They wouldn't waste their time building Chinese banks in Africa and negotiating trade in the RMB instead of local currencies if they were going to abandon Africa.
China wants their food and all their natural resources and they're going to get it one way or another. They're literally building a new Silk Road.
@feld@alex@Groomschild Yes by China Not the Africans China is not going to subsidize the production of Africans with Chinese-owned farms producing food to be shipped back to China.