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   novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️ (anarchopunk_girl@kolektiva.social)'s status on Thursday, 10-Aug-2023 21:29:26 JST novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️

   Just saw someone else do this and it seems like a good idea so here goes:

   "Introduce yourself with one book, on album, and one movie":

   Book: Hardwired by Walter Jon Williams
   Album: Transgender Dysphoria Blues - Against Me!
   Movie: Dark City

   #1book1album1movie

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     novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️ (anarchopunk_girl@kolektiva.social)'s status on Thursday, 10-Aug-2023 21:30:20 JST novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️

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     Honorable mention to Chasm City by Alistair Reynolds, it was down to a coin flip between it and Hardwired because I'm actually best represented by two books and one album lol

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     novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️ (anarchopunk_girl@kolektiva.social)'s status on Thursday, 10-Aug-2023 21:37:37 JST novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️

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     • Dani Tseng

     @Dani it's so fucking good right? IMO, it's up there with Neuromancer — in fact, I think they make a natural pair: Neuromancer is the CYBERpunk and Hardwired is the cyberPUNK. I actually like Hardwired better because of the sociopolitical and class worldbuilding and commentary. And the characters feel more human and personal, and everything feels so much more tangible and actually low life.

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     Dani Tseng (dani@mastodon.sandwich.net)'s status on Thursday, 10-Aug-2023 21:37:38 JST Dani Tseng

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     @anarchopunk_girl Oh goddamn, Hardwired... 💜

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     novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️ (anarchopunk_girl@kolektiva.social)'s status on Thursday, 10-Aug-2023 22:31:58 JST novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️

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     • Dani Tseng

     @Dani that's an interesting way of describing the difference, and yeah, I see it — although idk that the world of the Sprawl is all that thickly detailed actually, I think Gibson's focus does seem to be on a sort of drug trip impressionistic painting of the world more than the characters

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     Dani Tseng (dani@mastodon.sandwich.net)'s status on Thursday, 10-Aug-2023 22:31:59 JST Dani Tseng

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     @anarchopunk_girl To me it kind of feels like... Gibson painted worlds in almost fractal details and then sketched characters to do things in them, Williams imagined fully formed people and then sketched thd parts of the world they'd look at in the way they would.

     I love them both.

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     novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️ (anarchopunk_girl@kolektiva.social)'s status on Thursday, 10-Aug-2023 22:32:12 JST novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️

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     • Dani Tseng

     @Dani it's unique

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     novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️ (anarchopunk_girl@kolektiva.social)'s status on Thursday, 10-Aug-2023 22:36:26 JST novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️

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     • Dani Tseng

     @Dani it's funny you say that, because Cyberpunk 2020, which was a *very* early and influential member of the genre despite being a TTRPG, was directly inspired by Hardwired and Blade Runner and not at all by Neuromancer iirc

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     Dani Tseng (dani@mastodon.sandwich.net)'s status on Thursday, 10-Aug-2023 22:36:27 JST Dani Tseng

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     @anarchopunk_girl I could go on... argh. Like Neuromancer feels like (and probably inspired) the stereotypical Cyberpunk (rpg genre) runs... Hardwired is people finding their own goals

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     Dani Tseng (dani@mastodon.sandwich.net)'s status on Thursday, 10-Aug-2023 22:52:10 JST Dani Tseng

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     @anarchopunk_girl You know there's a cp2020 Hardwired source book right? To say nothing for Sandevistan, Kerenzikov and the cybersnake.

     But the overall "default way" structured GM framing with runs/jobs/gigs 100% is more in Neuromancer's style of story arc, you know?

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     novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️ (anarchopunk_girl@kolektiva.social)'s status on Thursday, 10-Aug-2023 22:52:10 JST novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️

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     • Dani Tseng

     @Dani no yeah I don't disagree about the structure at all, I was just laterally associating a bit lol