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   Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Aug-2023 04:27:10 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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   • Beomus :adm1::adm2:
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   @EightEight - they looked at vax vs unvaxxed
   https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(23)00263-8/fulltext
   h/t @saskboy
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     @jeffcliff @EightEight @saskboy @pyrate @Beomus @lonelyranger you can't get a country TLD without proof of living there or enterprise address proof
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     EightEight (eighteight@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Aug-2023 04:27:08 JST EightEight

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     > That doesn't follow. I am not an american and do not care about the CDC. The rest of the world isn't as fucked up as the US and our data isn't as suspect.
     This is retarded, you think that somehow America is more corrupt than Canada or the UK? Canada and the UK are literally laughing stocks of the world because they constantly do shit that makes no sense and only makes things worse for their citizens, in the name of diversity or whatever. Also, you have no evidence to suggest that somehow other countries' data is more valid.
     
     > That is comparing apples and oranges. Different vaccines carry different amounts of risk.
     No it's not comparing apples to oranges. like I said most previous vaccines had similar rates of adverse affects, it's only the covid vaccine that has a x100 increase in adverse affects.
     
     > This data is not valid. I've looked into it over and over again everytime someone like you posts it, and every time it's the same BS that only shows that the people reading it don't understand base rates.
     This is literally from the Center for Research on Globalization, a Canadian site I believe: globalresearch.ca
     So at this point you're just ignoring any evidence that goes against your pre-established beliefs.
     
     > Not everyone in medical science is a liar. That just paints you into an untenable corner
     Obviously not everyone is lying, but the point is that we aren't going to be able to tell, because there's so much contradictory "evidence".
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Aug-2023 04:27:08 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     > This is retarded, you think that somehow America is more corrupt than Canada
     
     Yes.
     
     > Canada and the UK are literally laughing stocks of the world because they CAN'T GET COVID UNDER CONTROL
     
     FTFY
     
     > Also, you have no evidence to suggest that somehow other countries' data is more valid.
     
     Sure I do. And I've posted it, as it comes up. In particular south korea is doing pretty well right now about being honest about what covid is, and what it does to people.
     
     > No it's not comparing apples to oranges. like I said most previous vaccines had similar rates of adverse affects, it's only the covid vaccine that has a x100 increase in adverse affects.
     
     x100 is questionable but again: base rates matter.
     
     > This is literally from the Center for Research on Globalization, a Canadian site I believe: globalresearch.ca
     
     No, it just has a canadian TLD. It's a russian disinformation site and always has been.
     
     > So at this point you're just ignoring any evidence that goes against your pre-established beliefs.
     
     No, I'm not. I specifically investigated the Mercola data when it he first started posting it and went to the NHS/ONS database and pulled the numbers myself, for example. When there are good reasons to actually investigate something I have followed up on it. I have nothing but time on my hands right now, living in a state of self-isolation with my life on hold thanks to covidiots like you ignoring what is going on in the world around you.
     
     > Obviously not everyone is lying, but the point is that we aren't going to be able to tell, because there's so much contradictory "evidence".
     
     FUD. Again: the evidence on some things is stronger than others.
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     EightEight (eighteight@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Aug-2023 04:27:09 JST EightEight

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     you already said the CDC was wrong, so no mainstream source you show me is going to hold any weight.
     but regardless, I looked at this article, and it's doing too much. it's got like 9 different groups and 10 different self reported polls, etc.
     I want to see a study where they directly followed people who got vaccinated, and people who never got vaccinated, and I want to see the differences between them.
     
     I have tons of articles myself. Here's one showing that covid vaccines have serious adverse affects in 1 in 800 ppl who got the vaccine, versus other vaccines like the swine flu that have adverse affects in 1 in 100,000 ppl who got it. That's a x100 times increase in serious adverse affects.
     https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9428332/
     https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36055877/
     
     and here's a funny one:
     UK admits that children who got vaccinated are 13,000% more likely to die of covid:
     https://www.globalresearch.ca/shocking-uk-government-admits-covid-vaccinated-children-4423-more-likely-die-any-cause-13633-more-likely-die-covid-19-than-unvaccinated-children/5788225
     
     I can go on and on, I have tons of these, and they will all contradict whatever you have. Which is why I said in the beginning that these people are liars and can't be trusted, and anything you show me will likely be a lie.
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Aug-2023 04:27:09 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     • EightEight
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     > you already said the CDC was wrong, so no mainstream source you show me is going to hold any weight.
     
     That doesn't follow. I am not an american and do not care about the CDC. The rest of the world isn't as fucked up as the US and our data isn't as suspect.
     
     > I have tons of articles myself. Here's one showing that covid vaccines have serious adverse affects in 1 in 800 ppl
     
     that is significantly less than covid.
     
     > That's a x100 times increase in serious adverse affects.
     
     That is comparing apples and oranges. Different vaccines carry different amounts of risk.
     
     > UK admits that children who got vaccinated are 13,000% more likely to die of covid:
     > https://www.globalresearch.ca/shocking-uk-government-admits-covid-vaccinated-children-4423-more-likely-die-any-cause-13633-more-likely-die-covid-19-than-unvaccinated-children/5788225
     
     This data is not valid. I've looked into it over and over again everytime someone like you posts it, and every time it's the same BS that only shows that the people reading it don't understand base rates.
     these graphs come from the "expose" and https://fullfact.org/online/94-per-cent-vaccinated-deaths-covid/ does a relatively decent job of going into them. tl;dr Mercola is a lying sack of shit. https://counterhate.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/210324-The-Disinformation-Dozen.pdf
     
     > Which is why I said in the beginning that these people are liars and can't be trusted, and anything you show me will likely be a lie.
     
     Not everyone in medical science is a liar. That just paints you into an untenable corner
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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Aug-2023 04:28:43 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @jeffcliff @Beomus @EightEight @lonelyranger @pyrate @saskboy yo momma is Russian propaganda
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Aug-2023 04:28:44 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     Chossudovsky lives in canada, doesn't mean he's not russian propaganda
     
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Chossudovsky
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Aug-2023 04:29:22 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     nah,
     
     maybe dutch propaganda
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