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   aliss (aliss@outerheaven.club)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:04:20 JST aliss

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   @helene @tost when u have time i'd love to read u about this :celredcrystalheart:
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     Hélène (helene@p.helene.moe)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:06:03 JST Hélène

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     @aliss @tost basically Rust is meant to be more about being "provably safe" than "robust"
     it is not meant to deal with unexpected inputs or state corruptions, etc, while also being very strict on the programmer for that
     
     i'd trust things like erlang or elixir much more in that regard, they're basically designed for that: one process crashes, it's fine, just restart it; letting things crash *is* the way to be robust IMO
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     Tosti ? (tost@mk.toast.cafe)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:16:00 JST Tosti ?

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     @helene@p.helene.moe @aliss@outerheaven.club yes (though I'd rather BEAM let the system handle restarting stuff, rather than enter a death loop :nko_3c:

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     Hélène (helene@p.helene.moe)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:16:40 JST Hélène

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     @tost @aliss not sure what you mean :thinking_cirno: i wouldn't let systemd handle restarting pleroma's status renderers
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     Hélène (helene@p.helene.moe)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:19:39 JST Hélène

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     @aliss @tost almost no programming languages nowadays actually make you deal with that kind of stuff
     and in C/C++ when done right you don't have to either
     i think you'd prefer Go, though, considering
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     aliss (aliss@outerheaven.club)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:19:40 JST aliss

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     @helene @tost oh that's very interesting explanation thanks, im happy you're sharing your experience with me <3
     
     i've never used erlang/elixir (im not a programmer)
     and found Rust curious because how painstaking i was finding to debug memory // ensure memory is correct in C programs u need to do it by hand/brain basically and Rust does it for u
     
     but i've only written my first C smol program recently and i haven't written anything in rust yet..
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     Tosti ? (tost@mk.toast.cafe)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:19:42 JST Tosti ?

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     @aliss@outerheaven.club @helene@p.helene.moe try go :nko_3c:

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     Tosti ? (tost@mk.toast.cafe)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:19:43 JST Tosti ?

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     @aliss@outerheaven.club @helene@p.helene.moe (or better yet lua and co

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     aliss (aliss@outerheaven.club)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:19:45 JST aliss

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     @tost @helene what is BEAM?
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     Tosti ? (tost@mk.toast.cafe)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:19:45 JST Tosti ?

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     @aliss@outerheaven.club @helene@p.helene.moe the elixir/erlang vm

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     aliss (aliss@outerheaven.club)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:19:57 JST aliss

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     @tost @helene would love you to tell me why that choice <3
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     Tosti ? (tost@mk.toast.cafe)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:20:00 JST Tosti ?

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     @aliss@outerheaven.club @helene@p.helene.moe go isn't as painful to write in IME and the module system is nice and the lack of a build system is good

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     Tosti ? (tost@mk.toast.cafe)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:20:05 JST Tosti ?

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     @aliss@outerheaven.club @helene@p.helene.moe IME is "In My Experience"

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     aliss (aliss@outerheaven.club)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:20:07 JST aliss

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     @tost @helene IME is Intel's thing?
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     aliss (aliss@outerheaven.club)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:20:12 JST aliss

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     @tost @helene so it doesn't have a build system? :o
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     Tosti ? (tost@mk.toast.cafe)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:20:13 JST Tosti ?

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     @aliss@outerheaven.club @helene@p.helene.moe nope !
     you just go build and voila

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     Tosti ? (tost@mk.toast.cafe)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:20:19 JST Tosti ?

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     @helene@p.helene.moe @aliss@outerheaven.club remind me to tell you about the pleroma deathrattle sometime
     use that exact word, I'll know what it's about :totodile_laugh:

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     Hélène (helene@p.helene.moe)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:20:55 JST Hélène

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     @tost @aliss will it mean i'll have to redesign the entire supervisor tree? i hope not
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     aliss (aliss@outerheaven.club)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:20:58 JST aliss

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     @tost @helene u both very smart im baby
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     Tosti ? (tost@mk.toast.cafe)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:21:28 JST Tosti ?

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     @helene@p.helene.moe @aliss@outerheaven.club it's a BEAM issue as far as I'm concerned

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     Hélène (helene@p.helene.moe)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:22:16 JST Hélène

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     @tost @aliss i sure do love to write erlang beam patches (i do wish i could be paid to do that instead)
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     Tosti ? (tost@mk.toast.cafe)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:23:20 JST Tosti ?

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     @helene@p.helene.moe @aliss@outerheaven.club hold on lemme draft a letter to https://erlef.org/

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     Tosti ? (tost@mk.toast.cafe)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:27:08 JST Tosti ?

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     @aliss@outerheaven.club @helene@p.helene.moe im tosti

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     aliss (aliss@outerheaven.club)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:27:09 JST aliss

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     @helene @tost tosti is ze shell mommy tho
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     aliss (aliss@outerheaven.club)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 09:27:11 JST aliss

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     @tost @helene im only somewhat entering adulthood in shell scripting everywhere else im baby
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     Hélène (helene@p.helene.moe)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 22:21:27 JST Hélène

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     @aliss @tost just because someone made it doesn't mean you have to use it
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     aliss (aliss@outerheaven.club)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 22:21:29 JST aliss

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     @tost @helene there is now
     https://blog.palantir.com/g%C3%B6del-a-build-system-for-the-go-programming-language-9f7d2a4974e8
     https://github.com/palantir/godel
     
     damn go community you have ruined the go language