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   Critical (critical@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 16:45:07 JST Critical
   I can't get the AMD encoder to make good quality streams to Twitch :blobcatbongosad:
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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 16:45:06 JST :blobcathug:

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     @critical AMD encoder?
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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 16:45:17 JST :blobcathug:

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     @critical how about using obs?
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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 16:45:36 JST :blobcathug:

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     @critical what do you use?
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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 17:12:17 JST :blobcathug:

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     @critical twitch cant limit that easily so i bet they reencode it which makes it worse?
     i would recommend to use vbr and tune the bitrate options until you have 6000kbps if you move around
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     Critical (critical@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 17:12:18 JST Critical

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     @Jain OBS with AVC hardware encoding from the GPU. I'm going at 8000kbps (Twitch limits it to 6000, so the other 2000 don't matter) 1080p. Tried 60 and 30 fps, but when there's motion the stream gets blocky. All settings are on maximum. For bitrage I tried CBR and HQCBR
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 17:32:31 JST iced depresso

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     @critical @Jain videos get blocky when the encoder has blown the encoding budget. i think this is more likely to happen in the ultrafast presets since they sacrifice encoding quality for getting the frames out on a hard deadline.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 18:08:58 JST iced depresso

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     @Jain @critical https://restream.io/integrations/obs-studio/the-best-obs-settings-for-streaming/ i guess they recommend setting it to exactly 6000kbps for 1080 content, and the slowest cpu preset your computer can comfortably pull off. doesn't say much about using the hardware encoder though.
     
     that's as far as i can be of any help though sadly :blobcatgooglycry:
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 18:08:59 JST iced depresso

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     @Jain @critical i'd have to check some other streams but i want to say its somewhat normal for twitch streams to look like shit :blobcatgoogly: they don't really make it easy to ship high quality streams. like this one that is sourced at 720p and still struggles https://www.twitch.tv/theycallhimcake/video/1888565310
     
     hardware encoders tend not to be as adjustable as software ones. the software one is really good at crushing every last bit, while the hardware one.. pretty much gives you what it gives you, which tends to come in a very limited set of levers but its fast and more efficient.
     
     i know hevc absolutely can do 1080p30 at around 100mb per minute, but my onboard encoder is like 43fps so its just barely realtime.
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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 18:11:48 JST :blobcathug:

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     @icedquinn @critical :blobcatgoogly: they recommend using a different setup for twitch than anything else...
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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 18:18:42 JST :blobcathug:

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     @icedquinn @critical well, i heard that streamers dont like twitch for their quality but i never compared what they actually support... looks like twitch is behind technology
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 18:18:44 JST iced depresso

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     @Jain @critical twitch also doesn't support srt or rist which are useful for getting low latency video out
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     Tlapka (Arknights) (tlapka@ak.kawen.space)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 18:26:49 JST Tlapka (Arknights)

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     @icedquinn @Jain @critical what they said, I wouldn't stream at a higher bitrate than twitch can do
     
     and software encoding can really work better if your computer can manage it
     
     twitch 1080p always looks a bit blocky, the bitrate limit simply doesn't manage (they recommend 1080p 30fps AND games that aren't action heavy)
     
     with 720p you can try to go 60fps but then you're at 720p
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     Tlapka (Arknights) (tlapka@ak.kawen.space)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 18:29:50 JST Tlapka (Arknights)

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     • lilly! :_note:
     @lilly @critical @Jain @icedquinn you joke but I have one channel on twitch that i follow that only does like 360p streams and it works since it's retro games most of the time anyway
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     lilly! :_note: (lilly@miruku.cafe)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 18:29:51 JST lilly! :_note:

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     @tlapka@ak.kawen.space @icedquinn@blob.cat @Jain@blob.cat @critical@blob.cat you guys don't stream in 120p 24fps??

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     Tlapka (Arknights) (tlapka@ak.kawen.space)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 18:31:46 JST Tlapka (Arknights)

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     • lilly! :_note:
     @lilly @Jain @critical @icedquinn I wouldn't *recommend* it, but there's a lot of interesting compromises you can do if you know what your hardware can do, how OBS can get the most of it and the bare minimum of what your viewers will tolerate
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