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   Ignas Kiela (ignaloidas@not.acu.lt)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 13:11:03 JST Ignas Kiela

   • cool_boy_mew

   @coolboymew@shitposter.club lmao
   
   I was on an account deleting spree once, and they wanted me to go through the bullshit verification purely because they wanted to know that I am from somewhere where GDPR applies, now I'm thinking that I should've just uploaded some fake ID.

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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 13:11:48 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @ignaloidas sending an ID for the GDPR seems to be completely missing the point
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     Ignas Kiela (ignaloidas@not.acu.lt)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 13:14:46 JST Ignas Kiela

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     @coolboymew@shitposter.club and actually isn't even fully compliant - you can have another countries citizenship, but if you live in EU, you can send GDPR requests all the same.
     
     But basically, what the whole ordeal told me is that they want to keep your data as hard as possible, because the damn verification costs them about 1$, and I haven't even used the account since I was 12.

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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 13:16:28 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @ignaloidas there shouldn't even be a verification, it should be hard enforced regardless of who asks. That's what the law should require
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     Ignas Kiela (ignaloidas@not.acu.lt)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 13:19:13 JST Ignas Kiela

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     @coolboymew@shitposter.club I'm honestly not sure if that's indeed legal, but I didn't really care at the time to try ratting them out.
     
     Though I think for some services(like financial ones) that might indeed be justified.

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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 13:22:27 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @ignaloidas No, sorry, I don't mean "that's the law", I mean, that should be the law. Technically, requiring freaking ID proof and the yadda yadda is an absolute waste of time, ressources, etc. They should not ask, they should not be allowed to ask and not be allowed to IP locate the user that's asking, meaning, they should just shut and do it. That would be a net benefit for absolutely everyone
     
     But yeah, I suppose there might be a good reason for financial stuff like paypal and co to actually have a background check. But for facebook, gamefaqs or whatever, shouldn't ask
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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 13:27:58 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @ignaloidas I forgot the most important thing: Asking for ID is a privacy issue
     
     If they can force the cookie thing on everyone, why not this?
     
     What if someone is a dual citizen? What is someone is using a VPN to appear to be outside the EU? That's why they shouldn't ask
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     Ignas Kiela (ignaloidas@not.acu.lt)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 13:28:28 JST Ignas Kiela

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     @coolboymew@shitposter.club well, then comes a problem of enforcability and stuff. While US has an agreement with EU to essentially force US companies to comply with GDPR stuff (they may choose not to, technically, and get banned in EU for that), it only applies when it's actually an EU citizen doing it. EU trying to force companies to apply it to everyone is a very different geopolitical proposition, because that would essentially make GDPR a worldwide law, not an EU one. Which wouldn't go well in regards to global politics.
     
     But yeah, still dumb.

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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 13:29:03 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @ignaloidas yeah, but they managed to do the cookie stuff didn't they, that's forced on everyone. I personally don't see much difference at all
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     Ignas Kiela (ignaloidas@not.acu.lt)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 13:32:29 JST Ignas Kiela

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     @coolboymew@shitposter.club eh, technically not, companies could choose not to serve the cookie banners to non-EU customers, but that's harder to detect and doing the cookie banner thing (not mandated by GDPR, arguably many are infringing it) to annoy everyone is a good propaganda against GDPR by advertisers.
     
     Or they could just block anyone from EU from ever connecting to their website, a bunch of US news websites still do that.

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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 13:34:29 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @ignaloidas I'm surprised US news sites does that considering how much of them are failing miserably and are pretty much being held alive by investors infinite money
     
     What's the reason for that one? EU regulations that would absolutely destroy them because US outlets are really, really, really shit? Then again the BBC ain't better as far as I'm aware
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     Ignas Kiela (ignaloidas@not.acu.lt)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 13:36:10 JST Ignas Kiela

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     @coolboymew@shitposter.club more that they just don't have the money or technical people to change the site in a way that adds GDPR banners to at least simulate compliance.

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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 13:39:43 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @ignaloidas ahhhh, one thing could be that they absolutely depend on tracking everything the user do on their website. I've heard that news sites are extremely hostile about that in that they can track what you're reading by the second and know how long you're staying on an article, so that they can know what and how to write something for maximum clicks and time, which is probably one reason of why US news sites are so shit, it's a statistic race to the bottom
     
     I ain't sure how true that is, but it would definitively explain it and the gdpr requirements would put a big wrench in that
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     Threia of the hours lost (threia@cdrom.tokyo)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 13:45:45 JST Threia of the hours lost

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     @ignaloidas @coolboymew From my experience, many "consent banners":
     
     - do not work properly (implementation went wrong, requests are sent before/regardless of wether one accepts or denies)
     - do not comply w/ gdpr (confusing patterns, exhaustion strategies, etc.)
     - are implemented in ways that make detecting and evaluating them harder than it should be
     
     Oh also, you *mostly* don't need them if you don't do the ad-bizz (corporate and shop sites beware) (or google stuff)
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     ランファン (leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 13:55:43 JST ランファン

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     @coolboymew

     My solution is i no longer read any news. If it doesn’t have anime tiddies I’ll go do something else

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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 13:55:45 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @leyonhjelm @ignaloidas based
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     Ignas Kiela (ignaloidas@not.acu.lt)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 22:53:50 JST Ignas Kiela

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     @coolboymew@shitposter.club I mean, technically you could still do that, but you'd still need to get consent from the user (which teeeeechnically is what the cookie banners are trying to do).

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