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   Mac84 ? (mac84tv@bitbang.social)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 22:22:25 JST Mac84 ?

   This world is such a terribly wasteful place...

   There's a video going around of an iMac being through into a pile or ewaste and setting off a chain reaction of iMac like dominoes.

   Outdated policies prevent working PCs or parts from being donated to institutions who may have ZERO equipment.

   These could have been used as media players, for educational games, or to teach others how to repair electronics. 👎 Ugh

   Link to video: https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/1683979879065214976

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     Mac84 ? (mac84tv@bitbang.social)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 22:39:07 JST Mac84 ?

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     • Adam Demasi

     @kirb Yes, those are even more wasteful. Thankfully these are so old that none of that applies.

     It’s a damn shame Apple doesn’t have some program where after 5 or 10 years those systems couldn’t be wiped and reclaimed.

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     Adam Demasi (kirb@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 22:39:08 JST Adam Demasi

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     @mac84tv This is before you consider the effect of MDM activation lock. Legitimately decommissioned Macs that could be reused simply can’t be. They don’t hold sensitive data any more, the encryption key has been thrown away. So the entire machine is ewaste because someone doesn’t feel like going into Intune to delete a few serials. It’s happening with currently supported Macs 😬

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     Mac84 ? (mac84tv@bitbang.social)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 22:41:18 JST Mac84 ?

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     • Health Is Wealth

     @healthiswealth Exactly. Even if these were older PCs, assuming they weren’t full of leaky caps, there’s tons of opportunities to teach people basic electronics and engineering skills... which the world could use a lot more of.

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     Health Is Wealth (healthiswealth@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 22:41:19 JST Health Is Wealth

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     @mac84tv Apple not supporting older hardware aside, Linux could have been installed on all of these and all of them could have been donated. Such a shame.

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 22:58:30 JST feld

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     • Adam Demasi
     I bet you could change the clock to let you wipe it then 🫠 as you shouldn't need internet to wipe it (the clock being wrong would break TLS)
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     Zorin =^o.o^= (zorinlynx@tiggi.es)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 22:58:31 JST Zorin =^o.o^=

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     • Adam Demasi

     @kirb @mac84tv I think MDM and activation lock should have a timeout at the five year mark. Once the machine is old enough that it's not really worth that much anymore, allow someone physically present to wipe it and remove it from MDM.

     It wouldn't be hard for Apple to implement, and would give these machines a possible second life.

     THAT SAID, these Macs don't support being activation locked; they're too old. They're being trashed for no good reason.

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     Gen X-Wing (breadbin@bitbang.social)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 07:01:15 JST Gen X-Wing

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     @mac84tv Reminds me of people smashing guitars on stage:(

     Know what’s badass? (to borrow a phrase from the aptly named Mac from IASIP) Giving it away to someone that would love and cherish it.

     (I know some fake it and actually trash a very cheap guitar over and over again and have the guitar tech repair it good enough. But it’s still so dumb, sends the wrong message.)